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    Hi,

    Apologies for the long post, but one of my girls seems to be unwell and some details might help - I'd be grateful for any thoughts from you more experience folk...

    I'm new to chicken keeping, so it may be nothing to worry about... anyway, I have 8 girls (3 RIR, 3 LS, and 2 Barnevelder). They have been laying for about 6 weeks, and started when roughly 24 weeks old. Until now, they have all been very lively and active birds - with plenty of space to run around and forage, etc.

    I noticed on Tuesday night when I shut them up that one of the Barnies was camped out in the nest box rather than on the perches. The next day she seemed to be spending a lot of time in there. Indeed, she did not come out when I opened up the coop in the morning (nor did another that had joined her briefly to deposit her egg). I assumed she was just laying. At one point, some hours later, I had to remove her to get at the eggs, and she then ran around foraging and seemed fine for a bit. She was soon back in the nest box though, and I wondered if she might be egg bound (there had been a couple of large double yolkers over the past weeks, although I don't know who laid them - my parents were looking after them while I was on my hols, so I don't know what colour the eggs were).

    Having tried a few things to improve her situation, I'm pretty sure that she laid an egg on Thursday - at least, there were two that by their colour I believe are from the Barnies, unless I was mistaken. In any event, a brief check (yuk!) suggested she was not egg bound, yet she still remained in the nest box.

    Having removed her once again, she did run around a bit, but something about her didn't seem quite right. So, being new to this, and not wanting to take any chances, I popped along to the vet. The vet seemed to do a thorough check and couldn't find anything specifically wrong with her (although, the internal examination did yield a very nasty deposit on the table - and very smelly!). She recommended keeping her in isolation, so we quickly modified a large rabbit hutch to serve the purpose.

    When we put her in on Thursday evening she produced another dropping, which I removed from the litter. Since then, I have observed her eat and drink only a little - to my beginners view, not much at all, and she has not yet produced any further droppings. For sure there is not so much space to move about, but she seems to just sit on the perch.

    She looks fine - bright eyes, no discharges, feathers in good condition, bright comb, etc. But she just seems to mope around on the perch / in the nest box, not eating and drinking.

    Anybody got any ideas what could be wrong with her? They have a fairly large area of ground to free range in - could she have eaten something that upset her?

    thanks,

    JV

  • #2
    Update - not convinced, now, that she had laid that egg - today got something remarkably similar from one of the others - doh! So perhaps off lay for most of the week...

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    • #3
      Sounds to me like she's gone broody......they do this from time to time nothing to worry about, I just keep lifting mine out - am sure one of our more experienced hen keepers will be along soon to advise.
      The love of gardening is a seed once sown never dies ...

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      • #4
        Hmmm. The vet considered that unlikely due to her age - is it possible at this age, already?

        edit: - err, just checked on t'intergoogle, and seems they can at any age after starting to lay - could be, then, I 'spose...
        Last edited by J.V.; 22-09-2012, 01:32 PM. Reason: general ignorance

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        • #5
          vets- waste of time, I find.
          broody! has she growled at you when you stroke her back when she is on the nest? Does she look cross when other chickens approach. are her poos revoltingly smelly?

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          • #6
            Are smelly poos a good indication? She certainly has produced some foul stuff... Loking like broody, then... She does fluff up whe I get close and doesn't look pleased.

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            • #7
              well, there you go then. The poo smells foul as she retains it so she doesn't foul her imaginary eggs. You will need to remove her frequently from the nest box- if she is very stubborn find a wire cage that gives a good draught on her bum to stop her being broody. whilst she is broody she won't lay eggs and she will be a nuisance for the other hens so you need to persuade her to stop being broody. May I suggest that you also buy a basic book (Haynes do a good one) so you don't end up paying a fortune at the vets in the future for basic natural hen behaviour and do look around for a poultry specialist vet for the future. Your vet is a nincompoop.

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              • #8
                OK, that's embarrassingly simple... Lack of books is def not the problem, but there's a difference between reading about it and recognising what they're up to in practice... Well, now I know - thanks For some reason I had it in my head that they wouldn't get broody so early :/ At least it was a cheap vet!

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                • #9
                  Yeah, my first thought was broody, too!

                  Just section off a corner of the run, give her some Pellets and water, and leave her in there. Failing that, put her in a dog cage, if you have (or can borrow) one, and leave it in the run so she can see the others. Leave her there 24/7 to break the cycle. I prefer not to give any corn whilst they're in the 'sin bin' as it heats them up, and lowering their temperature is the aim. I had one in the sin bin recently, and she was 'released' for good behaviour after a week.

                  Good luck.
                  All the best - Glutton 4 Punishment
                  Freelance shrub butcher and weed removal operative.

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                  • #10
                    Ok. Thanks for the advice all

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                    • #11
                      If its any consolation, the first time one of my chooks went broody I thought she was ill too - but not enough to take her to the vets! Now that you know what to look out for, you'll know for the future. Its all part of the chicken learning curve

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                      • #12
                        Mine turned into a mini feathered Satan when she was Broody. Had to be very careful how I picked her up - or she'd peck me. Spiteful little bugga! That's something else to watch for.
                        All the best - Glutton 4 Punishment
                        Freelance shrub butcher and weed removal operative.

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                        • #13
                          One of my hybrids, bought at Easter at about 16-17 weeks old has been broody twice already. DD has threatened her with the pot, said it would be a lesson too the others too
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                          • #14
                            just for ref, broody droppings are big and firm and very fibrous, rather than the looser wetter normal poos. My hens' are anyway. they are totally different !

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                            • #15
                              Thanks all. One of my LS now seems to have gone the same

                              At least they're not too nasty with it - just fluffing up and screeching!

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