anyone got Rudbeckia Cherry Brandy?

[Two_Sheds]

I am thinking about ordering Rudbeckia Cherry Brandy, as it is offered as a Hardy Perennial from T&M Young Plants.

I just googled it, and T&M Seeds say it is a Half Hardy Annual.


I just checked yet another supplier and they say it is a Hardy Annual.

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do any of you already grow this and can you give me a definitive answer? Thanks guys

[coreopsis]

I just checked a couple of websites-I thought rudbeckia was a perennial.
I don't understand how there are flowers with the same name and one of them is perennial and the other annual

[BumbleB]

I have only got the Cherokee Sunset variety but I understand that Rudbeckia Hirta new varietys should be treated as an annual in most parts of the country, I have only seen it listed as half hardy annual, looks really nice though.

[seasprout]

I am growing this variety from seeds. So far little seedlings, i have also seen the offer from T&M. Tempted by other offers as well, but as its credit crunch will resist the urge (for Now).

You can get Annual Rudbeckia's as well as the perennial varieties.
I have always found Annual Rudbeckia toto to be excellent flowerier, and it can really withstand the weather.

[kentvegplot]

Noticed that some of my 'annual' Rudbeckias are growing well from last year's plants... I'll check the variety when I can find the seed packet.

[Sweepster]

It says Cherry Brandy are HHA in my T&M brochure... would've been very tempted if they were perennial

[srodders]

An awful lot of plants that are often grown as annuals are in fact tender perrenials. e.g. tomato, snap dragon, chile, mesembryanthemum. If the climate is mild you will be OK. I thought Rudbeckia was quite hardy though - maybe that type is a bit of a wuss!

My nicotiana, snap dragon and nemesia still growing from last year are flowering nicely again now and are great looking plants.

[mykonian]

I'm growing them from seed as well - they are awfully small though. How long have yours been in seasprout?

[seasprout]

I'm growing them from seed as well - they are awfully small though. How long have yours been in seasprout?

Yes mine are also very small, and in a warm greenhouse. This is about their 3rd week.

Had a good look today and i had about 50% germination.

[Two_Sheds]

I got this reply:

Thank you for your recent email, and I am sorry it has taken us a little while to respond.

According to the information I have, the Rudbeckia Cherry Brandy is indeed a half hardy annual. I can only assume that there was an error in the magazine advert. Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.

Customer Care
Thompson & Morgan (UK) Limited

[BumbleB]

I picked up 6 healthy plants at a market fair today - 6 for £1.75, too good to pass up.

[cupcake]

I've got 20 odd seedlings in my cold frame. I find that here in East Yorks on free draining soil the plants will usually overwinter for 2 or 3 seasons. I suppose if I'd
mulched them they might last longer

[flowerofshona]

My seedlings of this variety are not doing to well its been a real struggle getting then big enough for a 3" pot !

[cherryc]

I bought some plug plants last year and they were wonderful, grew very fast, flowered until late autumn and needed no propping up at all. They were described as HHP's so I covered them with a really thick mulch - they did not survive the winter, even in our very sheltered Bath garden protected by a wall. Most of my other HHP's did survive with the same treatment.