Nasturtiums mysteriously carked it

[Shadylane]

Does anyone have any ideas why these nasturtiums have given up on life? They're down the allotment next to some beans which are getting nibbled by pea/bean weevils. My first thought was frost but they're supposed to be hardy aint they? The ones at home are fine.

Weird thing is I'm sure they were fine yesterday and it was colder on Monday night than last night here. I'm sure I'm being paranoid but I can't help but think summat fishy is going on as it's the second oddity to occur in the last couple of days. The wild strawbs which I fleeced to protect the flowers were blackened anyway while the ones at home were fine. Could it be weevils that have suddenly caused em to keel over or is there something else going on?

(Sorry about the poor quality only had me phone to hand)

[screwbylil]

mine are the same i fear the frost has done its worst and nobbled them oh well so much for companion planting, back to the drawing board

[zazen999]

No - they're not hardy!

[Shadylane]

The packet says they are. Not half hardy - hardy. The ones at home are totally fine - suppose it's a bit less exposed than allotment but still. Thanks for replies but I am still confuddled.

[OllieMartin]

Mine are looking like this, I wrapped black sheeting around them to try and shield them so they're slightly better.
Potatoes didn't come off so well

[IgglePiggle]

Plant some more, your still got time and their cheap as well

[zazen999]

The packet says they are. Not half hardy - hardy. The ones at home are totally fine - suppose it's a bit less exposed than allotment but still. Thanks for replies but I am still confuddled.

Unless it is a specific type - then they aren't hardy...otherwise you'd see then during the winter. Which company's seeds are they?

[Two_Sheds]

My first thought was "they aren't hardy", but I Googled them and they are described as hardy: but they're not! Mine always get killed by the first cold weather in late October, always

[Shadylane]

Plant some more, your still got time and their cheap as well

Yeah I'm going to - picked up some more in Morrisons for 59p

Unless it is a specific type - then they aren't hardy...otherwise you'd see then during the winter. Which company's seeds are they?

They were from Morrisons - their own brand but I think T&M and Suttons maybe came up when I googled and they all said hardy annual.

My first thought was "they aren't hardy", but I Googled them and they are described as hardy: but they're not! Mine always get killed by the first cold weather in late October, always

Yeah I found the same when I googled, I guess companies lie Oh well you live and learn. Time to start again.
Thanks for the replies everyone.

[zazen999]

I still had one plant that was going great guns up until mid december last year - but soon after that it gave up the ghost.....but I thought that was the Indian Summer effect....

[sarraceniac]

Very strange this. My nasties (Lady S. loves 'em) have never had any problem, at least the 'standard' ones haven't. Could that be because I always plant the seed in hanging baskets and the recent frosts have only been ground frosts? When you get an air frost you know it's cold, like Jan. Feb. this year.

I've had a couple of problems with my 'weirder' ones though. The new T&M cream coloured ones were planted a couple of weeks ago in a coir lined basket. The birds (sparrows I think) have pulled every bit of coir out and the water retaining compost is all over the path. No sign of any seeds, just an empty basket and a compost strewn path. The 'black' ones that I took about 80 seeds off last year are now planted - all 10 of them. 70 or so rotted in storage. Maybe I did not dry them properly? any other theories? Hope the other 10 are viable.

[Shadylane]

Did you let the seeds ripen properly? Maybe they were still a bit damp. I guess the birds ate the other ones

[chengjing]

They are hardy. All mines are outside since they had 5 to 6 leaves. They seems ok.

[Two_Sheds]

Sarah Raven describes them as half-hardy, *everyone* else says hardy. I found one site that said they need a minimum air temp of 2c to grow

In my garden, the self-sown ones pop up in May and all plants are killed overnight in Oct/Nov...

[Shadylane]

Maybe 'everyone' else lives in areas where they don't get late frosts either way I won't be planting them out that early again.