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    Nearly 2 years ago we moved to a house which had just had its garden re-landscaped. It has tiers of raised beds around a lawn, thus we have a level lawn, where previously it was a slope (apparently). The top tier of the raised beds is the original ground level at the top of the slope. That seems to have exhausted the previous owners, as they didn't actually put anything into the raised beds - just left them empty.

    Anyway, the first year I just stuck in a load of annual seeds while I thought about how on earth to plant such unusual 'borders'. I eventually came up with the plan of making them like flower waterfalls - echoing colour and plantings to look as if they were splashing down the different levels, using small weeping habit trees and trailing plants, etc. I have started on this, but it's slow (spare money tends to go into edibles on the allotments). It was all a very wonderful idea, I thought - until reality set in. The first reality check was the discovery that our hens LOVE to jump between the different tiers of raised beds and have a good old furtle in them all. Hmmm. Plants just about coping with it (most of them, at least). And then we got a puppy. Not just any puppy - a staffordshire bull puppy.

    Yes, well .... I think that I can give up on the idea of any artistic garden. One that in some way survives would be nice!

    I'm now considering a bit of an "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" approach. The hens eat the plants. At least if they're herbs they should make the eggs (and eventually meat) taste good, and keep the hens healthy. An old friend of mine used to give her girls a herb salad every day - and the eggs tasted AMAZING. The dog, however, doesn't eat them. She just charges through them madly, giving them a good battering. She too enjoys the different levels!

    So, trying to come up with a new design which is based around hardy plants, ideally herbs, which can cope with the total abuse being thrown at them. The soil quality is excellent, the treatment the plants are receiving isn't. The back 'border' is shady - only gets the late afternoon sun. The side border is fairly sunny.

    Any ideas, anyone? Or do I just need to give up on the garden if the animals are to have a happy life?

  • #2
    Rosemary and Lavender are pretty good tough shrubs, but would need some protection until they're well established. Or else if you've got some spare ££, something trained to a standard would work great. Good old garden mint could be quite successful (and very invasive, so plant it inside a buried pot), I've cropped mine right off to the ground before adding a few inches of new soil over top.. and it grew right back as happy as ever. Maybe also experiment with what ever herbs happen to be on offer at your local Tesco/etc.. I got some chives a few weeks ago for .17p each! Just be sure to harden them off before planting outside.

    Good luck!

    PS. Have you considered a small caged area of the garden? Free animals, but pretty flowers and a bit of a kitchen garden close to home.

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    • #3
      Chicken wire comes to mind ? containers /hanging baskets for your herbs.
      Last edited by cupcake; 19-12-2008, 10:05 PM.
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      • #4
        oregano is good, spreads nicely tastes delish.
        tarragon is nice too and straggles along, so will waterfall for you.
        sage, white and purple for colour, quite hardy.
        a nice edible bay or two, either trained as standards of left to shrub.
        rosemaries and lavenders definately.

        the more hardy ones you have, the more they protect the tender ones from the ravages of the puppy.

        i envy you your tiers to be honest.
        Last edited by BrideXIII; 19-12-2008, 10:11 PM.
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        • #5
          Wormwoods are fairly hard to kill off, but I don't know if they are safe for animals and chickens. Evergreen hyssop and thyme seem to survive the ravages of my cats fairly well and as already mentioned, most mediteranean (sp?)shrubby things seem quite robust.

          Chives, parsley and mint and chamomile and creeping thymes seem to bounce back if they're trampled too.

          Prickly fruit bushes like gooseberries, blackberries, loganberries in the back raised border might be a good choice and they will take a little shade.

          Growing up tripods or poles with swags of fruiting vines might also keep some of your produce out the way.

          Some pictures of your site might help people to make more suggestions

          I suppose a decorative picket fence to keep the dog off the beds might be worth considering...?


          Red x
          Last edited by crazy_red; 20-12-2008, 06:51 PM.

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          • #6
            Just to add - don't forget there is a prostrate rosemary, keeps low and pretty tough. The smaller thymes and mints would also be fine. Chives are completely tough - you'll probably have to split them every year or so.

            I agree that a few prickly things might help to keep the animals away from parts of the garden.
            Growing in the Garden of England

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            • #7
              Mint and more mint! Sage is hardy in my garden, and the purple variety is really pretty (though the flavour isn't as punchy as the green variety). Golden marjoram is good, and layers itself around too so you'll be getting lots of new plants from it after a year or so. Echo kvp with chives too (and chives on scrambled eggs is de-lish). But you're unlikely to get chive-flavoured eggs or meat, it doesn't work like that I'm afraid! I've heard that giving hens lots of garlic can make the eggs taste a bit different, but I think it has to be lots and lots!

              Dwell simply ~ love richly

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              • #8
                Trailing roses hanging over the different levels might work well for you Caroline and keep the dog off.

                From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.

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                • #9
                  Hubby's off work tomorrow, so going to get him to take photos that I can post like Crazy red suggests.

                  Please keep the ideas coming, they're good, and my brain is starting to (slowly) chew them over to try and come up with some kind of plan which would still look good. Oooh, trailing roses. I didn't know such things existed, thanks Alice. Shows how much I know about gardening, doesn't it? Oh well, can't learn everything in just 2 years, now, can I?

                  Regarding the fencing off ideas - well, once you see the photos perhaps you'll understand why my (admittedly sludgy with cold virus, so even worse than usual) brain can't quite figure out how - at least in a way that's still nice to look at. No doubt one of you will spot how straight away and sort me and my brain out. If you could sort me and my brain out for life in general now ... that would be really great. I certainly need it

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