saving seeds

[xavanaz]

Hello there!I am a new member and a newbee to seeds! I don't know much and this is my first year that I grow plants from seeds. I've read about Heirloom varieties and I am a little bit confused.I ordered some seeds and I don't know which of them are proper for saving.I want to know for sure which of the seeds I can keep for reseeding.In the seeds' packet there are no explanation if the seeds are Heirloom or Hybrids so I don't know if I can keep them. Below I have a list with seeds I have.Could anyone help me and tell me which seeds are proper for reseeding?
1) squash early butternut
2)tomato black cherry
3) Cucumber lungo cinese digerible Italian Range cucumis sativus
4)sweet pepper D'asti Giallo
5) pepper sweet banana
6)strawberry Toscana
7) tomato Tigerella
8) tomato Abraham Lincoln
9) strawberry Mignonette
10)cucumber Gherkin national
11) french bean climbing blue lake
12) tomato tumbling tom red
13)tomato sweet 'N' Neat cherry red
14)tomato Moneymaker (lycoperiscon)
15) tomato moenymaker organic sourced
16)tomato bella rosa
17)tomato alicante (lycoperiscon)
18)tomato amish paste
19)cucumber lemon
20)tomato rio grande Italian Range
21) tomato roma nano Italian Range
22) Pepper Aji Pinguita de Mono
23)Augbergine Slim Jim

I am waiting for your answers!!!Here in Greece the weather is perfect for seeding.Sunny and warm!

[veggiechicken]

Yassou xavanaz! That's quite a list. I'm no expert but I wouldn't bother saving from the F1 seeds as they probably wouldn't come true next year.
Here in Wales the weather is sunny and warm too (for a change)!.

[xavanaz]

thanks my friend.Tomato Applause F1 is different from tomato applause Heirloom?

[salome2001]

F1 implies a hybrid variety, bred to have specific characteristics in the immediate generation but no guarantees how the genetics will go in future generations.
I have no idea how a variety can be both hybrid and heirloom

[xavanaz]

thanks i delete the f1

[veggiechicken]

I'm sorry xavanaz I know nothing about Tomato Applause apart from what I've seen on the Internet, As Salome says you cannot guarantee how the next generation will turn out with F1 seeds. Some of us try to grow standard varieties only and not F1 .
Have a look at this website Great Vegetable Seeds from The Real Seed Catalogue which explains a lot about seed saving and the reasons why it is good to grow traditional varieties.

[Two_Sheds]

Tomato Applause F1 is different from tomato applause Heirloom?

Try googling those seeds you've got, or else: what does the packet tell you? Is F1 mentioned anywhere?

Seeds Tomato Applause av This says it's a hybrid

Amish Paste Heirloom Tomato Seeds This says it's heirloom

[xavanaz]

thanks I've tried googling but I m interested in personal knowledge as in internet I can not find something specific.Does anyone knows if some of my seeds are openpolinated?

[Alison]

It's also worth remembering that although you can save seeds from pretty much anything, some varieties are easier than others. For example, peas very very rarely cross so if you just let a pod you would eat go dry rather than picking for fresh eating then you can resow those seeds with a high level of confidence that they will come true. Squashes and pumpkins are famously promiscous and will cross with each other at the drop of a hat and unless you isolate the flowers against contamination you could end up with anything, might be better than the original but might be horrible. I'd recomend a good read of the Real Seeds site (mentioned above) which outlines basic seed saving advice and if you want further information, this is a really good book: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Back-Garden-...3022143&sr=8-1

[xavanaz]

thank you a lot!

[warlock333]

ok i have been reading a lot about saving seeds and looking at guides on the internet
peas and beans are easy you just have to let one complete plant fully ripen and go dry then collect the seeds .tomato squash cucumber melon can all be saved using this method as follows
take a ripe fruit of any of the above scoop out all of the pulp put into the jar then half fill with water
leave for three weeks stirring once a day it will stink a little and tip out water three times after the third week take a sieve empty the jar into it and wash several times till you are just left with the seeds take an old plate spread the seeds out on it and leave for several days until dry place in a paper envelope and write down which variety they are .peppers and chilleis you just open up the fruits and scrape the seeds out but you need plastic gloves for the chillies and just let them dry .brassicas are harder and you have to thresh them. i hope that helps you

[Two_Sheds]

.brassicas are harder and you have to thresh them

Brassicas are more difficult to get seed from: they cross with each other and with weeds like charlock

You'd need to have isolation nets