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    Have just had a somewhat unexpected bonus from work which means that I can afford to invest in a polytunnel. I won't be getting it until the autumn as the area where I want to put it has potatoes planted there at the moment but am doing a bit of investigation work first.
    1. 1 - I could sensibly site a 10' wide tunnel, probably 20' long, is this a reasonable size - I seem to remember people talking about massive ones last time I asked about these!
    2. 2 - Some seem to have doors at both ends, some a door and a vent, any comments?
    3. 3 - Is it worth getting bespoke benching for one side or will it be in the way of what I want to grow in the ground and actually be an expensive mistake?


    Probably more questions to come but I've got a few months to decide

    Some of us live in the past, always talking about back then. Some of us live in the future, always planning what we are going to do. And, then there are those, who neither look behind or ahead, but just enjoy the moment of right now.

    Which one are you and is it how you want to be?

  • #2
    I would say go for the widest you can.
    I have a 20ft by 14ft and it allows me 2 x 4ft by 20ft and 1 x 4ft by 18ft with two paths each of 1ft. Plus at one end I plant the width of the poly tunnel so the paths stop 3ft from one end of the tunnel. Hope that makes sence.

    I did buy the leg supports from firstunnels when I ordered the polytunnel. I leave the legs where they are and just rest battoning over them. I then just remove the battoning to allow any plants to higher. I don't alway remove all the battoning might reducing it to a depth of 15inches rather than 40inches when in full use the staging area is 10ft by 3.5ft. The treated battoning was from B&Q and cost about £5.50 for the lot.

    It's a must to have door ar each end I have a wide door at the front and double door at the other end. The wide door end isn't used for access as i plant the complete width of the tunnel at that end and only have the door for the air ventilation.
    Last edited by marathon; 21-04-2009, 01:49 PM.

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    • #3
      We are picking our tunnel up from First Tunnels on Friday! Yay!

      We've gone for a 10ft x 30ft, as that's the largest we could afford.
      We've also got crop bars, ground cover, the basic irrigation system and a double door at the front.

      We're not planning on planting straight into the ground, as the soil where we are is quite poor. We're going to use a combination of pots and growbags for this year, and see how it goes. We may put raised beds with bought-in topsoil in next year.

      I would always say - buy the largest you can afford. We went for the double door at the front so I could get my wheely trolley into the tunnel, and the back door will be for ventilation only.

      Think about watering. Since our tunnel will be 600 yards away from the nearest tap, but only a short walk away from the extra long hose we have to top up the duck pond, we've gone for an irrigation system.

      I didn't bother with staging, as I have 3 wallpaper/paste tables that I currently use for potting up/seedlings, so will just move those into the tunnel when we build it.

      First Tunnels currently have a huge workload, with orders at this time of year taking much longer to process and deliver etc. I hadn't factored this in, and as a result, our tunnel has taken 2 weeks longer to get to us than I had originally planned.

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      • #4
        I managed sited a 14' by 20' tunnel on my allotment this year, It's been great so far. As i'm growing for 2 people then this is ample room for the tender crops (toms-cukes-peppers-chillis) and there's still room for my sweetcorn, strawberry's, carrots, and onions.

        I have a door at one end and a non opening door at the other, I've not had any problems with ventalation this far but it's still early days. The opening in the fixed door is 3'8" by 3'5" wide with a lite mesh covering it seems to do the job.

        Don't be afraid of trenching your tunnel either, it does take an hour to dig the trench prior to construction but it's a doddle to back fill and very secure. - if you don't fancy digging it all in one go then you can take your time over a weekend.

        As for benching i wouldn't worry about it too much, If you don't have it staright away at least you'll have the option of full length soil beds for your first couple of seasons, you could use an end to site your staging instead. Crops bars will be very useful although i'm not conviced about the irrigation systems, maybe i will be at the end of the summer though

        My only other thought would be to ensure that you get a tunnel with the strightest sides possible. My tunnel is semi-circular in shape and thus i have to ensure that my tallest crops are in the middle with the shorter crops at the sides. Whilst this isn't a big problem this year i'm a little concerned about next year's crop rotation.

        One last thing to note is that you can collect rainwater from your tunnel, It's not always easy to work out how but there are gutters available on the market or you can make your own by recycling the poly offcuts. something like this.....http://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gra...ing_30619.html

        Good luck with choosing your tunnel, your growing world will never be the same again!

        D
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        • #5
          I have the stick on gutering which is working well so far. Only cost £14 and you just stick it on - simple as that.

          Watering can be a bit of a pain but i have set up a water system running off the waterbutts. One piece of guttering on each side of the PT runs into waterbutts (2 butts on each side)with pipe running of the waterbutts which run down the side of the polytunnels on the inside of the cover. I then have smaller tubes runner from the main pipe. So my two outside beds are watered very easily. The bed in the middle needs watering by hand.

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          • #6
            i'd love to see a photo of that marathon, please could you send me one?
            Last edited by Duronal; 22-04-2009, 10:50 PM.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Alison View Post
              Have just had a somewhat unexpected bonus from work which means that I can afford to invest in a polytunnel. I won't be getting it until the autumn as the area where I want to put it has potatoes planted there at the moment but am doing a bit of investigation work first.
              1. 1 - I could sensibly site a 10' wide tunnel, probably 20' long, is this a reasonable size - I seem to remember people talking about massive ones last time I asked about these!
              2. 2 - Some seem to have doors at both ends, some a door and a vent, any comments?
              3. 3 - Is it worth getting bespoke benching for one side or will it be in the way of what I want to grow in the ground and actually be an expensive mistake?


              Probably more questions to come but I've got a few months to decide
              1. Get as big as you can - they are like sheds and greenhouses - they will fill up quicker than you can blink.

              2. That size you would get away with a door at one end and a louvre / vent at the other.

              3. I wouldn't bother with bespoke benching - I had some for the first two years in my tunnel but removed it this year. Just use an old table in the corner for potting.

              Don't rush in to deciding which tunnel to buy and who from. There are pro's and cons to each type. Decide on whether you are going to trench or fit base rails. Look at how easy it will be to tighten the cover a coule of years down the line - I have base rails and it's a real pain in the ass, my mate has a tunnel by a different manufacturer and he can raise the hoops from inside his tunnel to retension the cover.
              As for irrigation - do you really need overhead irrigation - okay for salad crops and seedlings but if you are going to grow cukes, chiilies or toms, it will be redundant for a long time.
              Definitely get crop bars - so useful for routing hoses, suspending hanging baskets (mine are used for 64 habaskets of early strawberries), and even suspending wooden boards from, on which you can place seed trays after sowing so that your growing floorspace is left free.
              Hope that's given you something to work on when making your decision.
              Rat

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              • #8
                Originally posted by sewer rat View Post
                1. Get as big as you can - they are like sheds and greenhouses - they will fill up quicker than you can blink.

                2. That size you would get away with a door at one end and a louvre / vent at the other.

                3. I wouldn't bother with bespoke benching - I had some for the first two years in my tunnel but removed it this year. Just use an old table in the corner for potting.

                Don't rush in to deciding which tunnel to buy and who from. There are pro's and cons to each type. Decide on whether you are going to trench or fit base rails. Look at how easy it will be to tighten the cover a coule of years down the line - I have base rails and it's a real pain in the ass, my mate has a tunnel by a different manufacturer and he can raise the hoops from inside his tunnel to retension the cover.
                As for irrigation - do you really need overhead irrigation - okay for salad crops and seedlings but if you are going to grow cukes, chiilies or toms, it will be redundant for a long time.
                Definitely get crop bars - so useful for routing hoses, suspending hanging baskets (mine are used for 64 habaskets of early strawberries), and even suspending wooden boards from, on which you can place seed trays after sowing so that your growing floorspace is left free.
                Hope that's given you something to work on when making your decision.
                Sound advice as usual, Rat
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                • #9
                  If you click on tunnel gutter which is on the ring hand side of the page you will see a demo of it.
                  Highland Polytunnels

                  Although I purchased my pipe and drippers from different places over time this link shows a system not too different to mine. Although I have raised my water but, almost two foot high. I just made a base of two tyres with a patio slab on top for my water butts. My polt is also slightly sloping which helps.

                  Drip Irrigation & Drip Watering - Drip Irrigation Collection

                  New camera foir my birthday so will take some photo's then, I'm a Mum of 35 and set it up on my own so I'm sure you could easliy do it.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by sewer rat View Post
                    1. Get as big as you can - they are like sheds and greenhouses - they will fill up quicker than you can blink.
                    Had assumed that was the case but don't want to lose any more outside bed area - funnily enough though it has already gone up from a 15' to 20' long - will be marking the area out properly to work out if I can get a 14' width in but that might encroach on a path too much.

                    Originally posted by sewer rat View Post
                    2. That size you would get away with a door at one end and a louvre / vent at the other.
                    I think some of the Northern Tunnels ones are like that, was looking the other day. Is it worth getting mesh sections down the sides too?

                    Originally posted by sewer rat View Post
                    3. I wouldn't bother with bespoke benching - I had some for the first two years in my tunnel but removed it this year. Just use an old table in the corner for potting.
                    As I thought, bought some quite expensive stuff for the greenhouse years ago which is now just used as a bench in the shed as it restricted what I could do during the main growing season.

                    Originally posted by sewer rat View Post
                    Don't rush in to deciding which tunnel to buy and who from. There are pro's and cons to each type. Decide on whether you are going to trench or fit base rails. Look at how easy it will be to tighten the cover a coule of years down the line - I have base rails and it's a real pain in the ass, my mate has a tunnel by a different manufacturer and he can raise the hoops from inside his tunnel to retension the cover.
                    As for irrigation - do you really need overhead irrigation - okay for salad crops and seedlings but if you are going to grow cukes, chiilies or toms, it will be redundant for a long time.
                    Definitely get crop bars - so useful for routing hoses, suspending hanging baskets (mine are used for 64 habaskets of early strawberries), and even suspending wooden boards from, on which you can place seed trays after sowing so that your growing floorspace is left free.
                    Hope that's given you something to work on when making your decision.
                    Irrigation is a bit irrelevant as I don't have running water. Was thinking of rigging up water butts and maybe feeding a drip system off them as I do for my greenhouse at home which would see me through between visits to the site if I can't get there for a few days (fingers crossed anyway!). Was already pretty sold on the crop bars but not worked out a load of other stuff although do know that I won't be concreteing the whole things in. Love the idea of supporting boards off the crop bars though, not thought of that!

                    Thanks for all the feedback, keep it coming and I'll bear it all in mind as I peruse the catalogues
                    Last edited by Alison; 23-04-2009, 12:31 PM.

                    Some of us live in the past, always talking about back then. Some of us live in the future, always planning what we are going to do. And, then there are those, who neither look behind or ahead, but just enjoy the moment of right now.

                    Which one are you and is it how you want to be?

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                    • #11
                      I have crop bars and agree with sewer rat they are really handy for hanging baskets which can be filled with tumbling tomato plants or strawberry plants.

                      Although you'll always wish you could have a larger PT I can grow an amazing amount of food from my 20ft by 14ft. Because I can get a few extra harvests it has meant there is a bit of extra space outside. Also my cabbages can stay in pots a bit longer under the protection of the PT on the staging until I have some free space.

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                      • #12
                        we inherited a largish tunnel with our new rental. It's had a few years of use and is heading for needing a new cover (old one a bit dull and brittle) Without measuring, the tunnel is probably around 15'x50'+.

                        Ours is laid out with a nearly full length bed each side, with a mesh door at each end - with slide in covers and roll-down plastic. The point of the doors is to allow access while controlling draughts and allowing ventilation. If I was redesigning ours, I'd be very tempted by top fanlights on the doors for ventilation purposes - I can't really leave the doors open without letting our 3 dogs in, which isn't ideal as they are all young and love digging... An interesting addition on ours is a vent pipe the length of the tunnel at the top of the arc... it's about 2-3" wide, similar to tumble dryer vent (but narrower) and has some holes cut in it along the length. It opens on the end panels.

                        A bit of research shows that poytheneone.com could well be the best source for a new cover. Certainly they are about half the price of anyone else I've seen prices for. Anyone elses' thoughts on this (and best time to cover?) would be welcomed! Ours currently seems to be batonned - not sure about the footings. There's enough space around to trench it if re-covering. I estimate our new plastic would be under £100 (just), so even after a few rolls of hotspot tape etc it won't be too bad to re-cover, and certainly much much cheaper than buying a ready made cover.

                        The 'front' end has been set up with a heated propagator on a bench to one side of the door and general potting bench to the other. Both very handy. Tables are black poly covered ply tops and rough sawn lumber legs. Sturdy and functional!

                        There is a narrow path of 1'sq (or so) flags between the beds, the beds seem to go about 2' down to chunky stuff. The place is irrigated with a sprinkler system attached to a timer-valve giving 4 programmes a day.

                        I think we've been very lucky being left this... I can get some pics up if anyone's interested. Just planting it now!

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                        • #13
                          You'd better show us some piccies

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                          • #14
                            have you tried firstunnels.co.uk? They were most helpful when i put mine together,
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