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  • #31
    I just found this


    "Lighting in the Home (Tudor times)


    Most people in 16th century Britain lived in poorly-lit houses. Only the wealthy could afford window glass, which meant that they could let light in while preserving heat. The poorer classes never had this luxury and had to do with wooden shutters to their windows, not being able to afford glass. This meant they could only let light in during the warmer weather. The peasantry lived in windowless houses with only a hole in the roof, slits in the wall and a doorway for light and ventilation. Artificial light was needed in every household on all but mid-summer evenings, and many needed it during the day. The most common form of domestic lighting was the rushlight, made by dipping a dried, peeled rush in animal fat. These were cheap to make and would burn for between 30 mins and an hour. Rushlights have been used in Britain since Roman times, and were lit in both rich and poor houses.
    As time progressed candles came along, these gave a better light but were more expensive. Most were made at home with tallow melted down from cooking fat, and with linen or cotton wicks. These candles needed frequent attention when lit as the wick burned more slowly than the fat. They dripped, smoked and smelt horrible. Beeswax candles were the best but cost more.
    In addition there were oil lamps fuelled with fat or oil, with a wick made of twisted textile strands or rush. They provided a good amount of light but the wick needed frequent trimming and the burning oil gave off unpleasant fumes and were a bit sooty. Further progress saw the pottery lamp introduced. The upper bowl contained oil and a wick that hung over the edge, the lower bowl caught the oil that inevitably dripped from above. Animal and vegetable oils would have fuelled these lamps."



    Now I think this could work with cooking oil, the wick is quite thick.
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    • #32
      Whale meat again, don't know where, don't know when.
      "...Very dark, is the other side, very dark."

      "Shut up, Yoda. Just eat your toast."

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      • #33
        Right, having destroyed bread tins, mops, T shirts and used up our cooking oil i have decided it isn't worth the candle! (pun intended) I tried to make something that would outlast the T lights because 4 hours just isn't long enough. I only want heat to get an early start to stuff in Feb March, basicaly to keep it frost free.
        So my choices are a parrafin or calor gas heater or electric. At first i dismissed electric on cost grounds but I was ignoring the fact that they are thermostaticaly controlled, It might be that if set to 4 or 5 degrees it would not come on that much (Particularly in Torquay). Wheras a fuel heater is on all night, has to be filled, needs wick trimming, and probably chucks out a lot of carbon monoxide. So I am leaning towards an electric fan heater with a frost stat. What do others members think?
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        • #34
          We use paraffin heaters in our house, to supplement the wood burner. They are Zibro heaters with electric ignition and thermostatic controls etc. we find them excellent. Here in France they are very popular for houses, garages old barns etc.

          http://www.zibro.co.uk/1144/zibro-pa...d-anywhere.htm

          They are not cheap, but you pay more for thermostatic control etc. basic models are a lot cheaper.

          A thermostatically controlled electric radiator would be cheaper to buy up front, but if your shed is getting below 0C on a regular basis it will be coming on a lot of the time. We used one in our shed last year and it seemed to be on a hell of a lot.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by datz View Post
            We use paraffin heaters in our house, to supplement the wood burner. They are Zibro heaters with electric ignition and thermostatic controls etc. we find them excellent. Here in France they are very popular for houses, garages old barns etc.

            Zibro paraffin heaters to be used anywhere | Knowledge center

            They are not cheap, but you pay more for thermostatic control etc. basic models are a lot cheaper.

            A thermostatically controlled electric radiator would be cheaper to buy up front, but if your shed is getting below 0C on a regular basis it will be coming on a lot of the time. We used one in our shed last year and it seemed to be on a hell of a lot.
            Yes they look good, I wonder how they make a parrafin heater thermostaticly controlled? The link you gave me doesnt mention price or whether they are available in England but i suspect they will be more than I can afford.(Off to search for details)

            ok well they have them on Amazon but I could buy a second hand car for that price lol, i just cant justify £250 ish for a few seeds.
            Last edited by Bill HH; 05-12-2013, 08:51 AM.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Bill HH View Post
              I tried to make something that would outlast the T lights because 4 hours just isn't long enough.
              Have you considered 8 hour T lights?
              Wilko Tealights 8hr Burn Time x 30 at wilko.com

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              • #37
                one of the traditions where I come from went as such.....

                Before gas and electric lighting...

                When you went courting a lass in the evening after your labours were done for the day, her parents would give her a candle to light so that you could talk to each other in privacy, once the candle had burnt out, you had to bid your beau farewell and go home.... The length of the candle therefore denoted the length of time you could spend together, the more lass's parents liked you, the longer the candle and inversely the less they liked you, the shorter the candle...

                One of the tricks employed to get the candle to burn for longer to keep the star crossed pair together for longer was to sprinkle salt into the molten wax by the flame to make the candle last longer
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by veggiechicken View Post
                  Have you considered 8 hour T lights?
                  Wilko Tealights 8hr Burn Time x 30 at wilko.com
                  Believe it or not i had never heard of them, definately a good option.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by RedThorn View Post
                    one of the traditions where I come from went as such.....

                    Before gas and electric lighting...

                    When you went courting a lass in the evening after your labours were done for the day, her parents would give her a candle to light so that you could talk to each other in privacy, once the candle had burnt out, you had to bid your beau farewell and go home.... The length of the candle therefore denoted the length of time you could spend together, the more lass's parents liked you, the longer the candle and inversely the less they liked you, the shorter the candle...

                    One of the tricks employed to get the candle to burn for longer to keep the star crossed pair together for longer was to sprinkle salt into the molten wax by the flame to make the candle last longer

                    Of course the intelligent lover brought a back up candle! I wonder if the term dipping your wick has anything to do with this lol.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Bill HH View Post
                      Believe it or not i had never heard of them, definately a good option.
                      Neither had I Bill - so I was about to suggest stacking 2 x 4 hours on top of each other to see if they would burn continuously............then I goggled and found those

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by veggiechicken View Post
                        Neither had I Bill - so I was about to suggest stacking 2 x 4 hours on top of each other to see if they would burn continuously............then I goggled and found those
                        Great minds! i dismissed that though because the second one wouldnt light, you would have to have a wick running through both and the casing of the first one would put the flame out.

                        Heres a plan, use an 8 hour wick or two in an upturned pot but have an electric fan set to come on at 2 degrees as a safety. They are about £23 pounds but also usefull to warm me when I have my cuppa in the GH and as a fan in the summer.
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