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    Morning lovely grapes. I want to change more if my veg beds to no dig but have two questions for any of you in the know:

    1 - What’s your experience of it for growing roots like parsnips and carrots?
    2 - what could I use as a (cheap) top dressing now that I’ve run out of home made compost. I have access to straw and horse manure - but it’s not rotted down yet (should have stacked a better muck heap last year and I wouldn’t be asking this question )
    Last edited by muckdiva; 08-04-2020, 09:32 AM.
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  • #2
    Parsnips have gone very nicely.
    Carrots - I've not had much luck.

    Mike

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    • #3
      I tried no dig on my parsnips...alien shaped, as I think the ground was too rich. Benefit was one parsnip was a meal as it had 3 roots

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      • #4
        Parsnips and carrots fine for me but my nodig beds are well established so not sure how they go on new beds. Maybe try some shorter varieties too if you have them?

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        • #5
          I used straw last winter (2018/9) and although the soil was wonderful, friable & weed free underneath I also think it was cold - everything was very slow to get away when planted out. It was fine as a summer mulch but I wouldn't put my beds to sleep beneath it again.

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          • #6
            Carrots for me appeared to be less affected by slugs on no dig and so easy to pull. Parsnips did seem to be more misshapen.Florence fennel did well

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            • #7
              The carrots were alright last year, but I grew them at home last year, as I have no carrot fly here, and although it IS no dig, it somehow doesn't seem the same as on the plot. But yeah, they were decent.

              I did sow parsnips on the plot but none germinated last year. It was a rubbish year for a lot of things though, so I wasn't too surprised. and I'm fairly sure it wasn't fresh seed either.
              https://nodigadventures.blogspot.com/

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              • #8
                I grew my carrots and parsnips in a pallet collar filled with a 50/50 mix of MPC ( non enriched ) and coffee grounds, grew very well and straight. Filled collar to top and set the seeds then used another pallet collar to give enough height to keep ‘fly’ off.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Logunner View Post
                  I grew my carrots and parsnips in a pallet collar filled with a 50/50 mix of MPC ( non enriched ) and coffee grounds, grew very well and straight. Filled collar to top and set the seeds then used another pallet collar to give enough height to keep ‘fly’ off.
                  Got a picture of that please?
                  Our England is a garden, and such gardens are not made
                  By singing-'Oh how beautiful!" and sitting in the shade,
                  While better men than we go out and start their working lives
                  At grubbing weeds from gravel paths with broken dinner-knives. ~ Rudyard Kipling

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                  • #10
                    Thanks all for your insights, lots to think about. Going to give it a go - and sow a few extra in dustbins of MPC compost / soil mix as a comparison
                    Last edited by muckdiva; 09-04-2020, 11:12 AM.
                    All at once I hear your voice
                    And time just slips away
                    Bonnie Raitt

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                    • #11
                      I'm going to try carrots and parsnips two ways:-

                      1 - Upside down recycle boxes with the bottoms cut off

                      2 - New no dig bed, I don't expect a lot from this as heavy clay but will at least get an indication
                      Cheers

                      Danny

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by PyreneesPlot View Post
                        I used straw last winter (2018/9) and although the soil was wonderful, friable & weed free underneath I also think it was cold - everything was very slow to get away when planted out. It was fine as a summer mulch but I wouldn't put my beds to sleep beneath it again.

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                        P P did you put the straw down when the soil was cold, as straw acts as an insulator if it wasn't that I would suggest that the next time you do it move the straw a couple of weeks before planting to allow the soil to heat up, putting straw down protects the soil over winter and encourages worms which keeps your soil friable
                        it may be a struggle to reach the top, but once your over the hill your problems start.

                        Member of the Nutters Club but I think I am just there to make up the numbers

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by muckdiva View Post
                          Morning lovely grapes. I want to change more if my veg beds to no dig but have two questions for any of you in the know:

                          1 - What’s your experience of it for growing roots like parsnips and carrots?
                          2 - what could I use as a (cheap) top dressing now that I’ve run out of home made compost. I have access to straw and horse manure - but it’s not rotted down yet (should have stacked a better muck heap last year and I wouldn’t be asking this question )
                          If you have horse manure that's six months or more old it should be safe to put it on your soil though you can still sow seeds into the soil without having to put a top dressing on it, personally I would put some of the horse manure on part of the garden to see how it effects the plants, that way you get experience for the future
                          it may be a struggle to reach the top, but once your over the hill your problems start.

                          Member of the Nutters Club but I think I am just there to make up the numbers

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by mrbadexample View Post
                            Got a picture of that please?
                            Only this years set up.. that’s them under the green netting in case of a sharp frost.

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