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  • #16
    Most modern toms can't actually be pollinated by insects - the sexual organs are all enclosed in the central tube of the flower. Some of the heritage and beefsteak types potentially could, or could be cross-pollinated by insects, because the female part sticks out of the anther cone a little way. You can see it if you look carefully. However, I suspect outdoor toms are too cold and wet, and if your indoor ones get a temperature ov 30 or over, they are unlikely to set fruits before the flowers dry up and drop off. When it comes to weather coonditions it's all out of our hands. You can damp down and/or shade a greenhouse though - that might help.
    Whoever plants a garden believes in the future.

    www.vegheaven.blogspot.com Updated March 9th - Spring

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    • #17
      Went round all the toms yesterday, holding top of each cane and tapping away with a short piece of cane and sure enough I could see some pollen falling.

      Neighbour was looking at me doing this with an odd look on his face, "Wrong Sunday for beating the bounds you know"

      Before I came away and the cloud had built up, I used a fine spray on all of them.

      Went down to open up this morning and quite a few of the flowers have not opened, so hopefully me doing the wheel tappers impersonation is having an effect.

      Let you know at the end of the week.
      Last edited by Stacey Steve; 14-07-2008, 09:57 AM.
      I am certain that the day my boat comes in, I'll be at the airport.

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      • #18
        I've got Gardeners Delight and Shirley growing in the unheated greenhouse. Plenty of flowers on both types but the fruit set on the Shirley is only about 50%. Gardeners delight are now starting to fly and I had my first small red tomato yesterday. I think part of the problem up here in Cumbria this year has been the low night temperatures.
        Last edited by Seaweed Jack; 14-07-2008, 12:22 PM.

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        • #19
          have got plenty of flowers, and a few setting (tigerella,san marzano,gd and some unknowns from the compost bin!) inside and out,fruit definately taking its time this year but i think patience will prevail!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Kristen View Post
            I don't reckon you need bees to pollinate Toms - although I expect it helps.

            I gently knock the canes supporting the plants to dislodge the pollen - harder to describe than to do! Its a bit like drumming your fingers on the desk, except done vertically on the supporting cane. The greenhouse immediately starts to smell of the Tomato Pollen.
            Originally posted by Flummery View Post
            Most modern toms can't actually be pollinated by insects - the sexual organs are all enclosed in the central tube of the flower. Some of the heritage and beefsteak types potentially could, or could be cross-pollinated by insects, because the female part sticks out of the anther cone a little way. You can see it if you look carefully.
            Glad I read this as I am growing a cherry tomato plant on a windowsill at work and would be disappointed if it didn't fruit due to no pollination!

            I always thought they were mostly self-pollinating as Flummery says, so do they still need to be shaken so that the pollen falls on the male bits?

            Do peppers & chillis need a shake too? I didn't think they did

            Sorry if these are stupid questions

            Cheers
            Keith
            http://www.keithsallotment.blogspot.com/

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            • #21
              I shake all my toms. It never hurts! With the peppers I think the flies do the business - there are always lots around the chilli plants. However, I sometimes rub my little finger inside the flower and transfer from one to another. Don't know if it's necessary but I get lots of peppers!
              Whoever plants a garden believes in the future.

              www.vegheaven.blogspot.com Updated March 9th - Spring

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              • #22
                I'll give it go then, as you say, can't hurt.

                Thanks
                http://www.keithsallotment.blogspot.com/

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                • #23
                  Most toms are self fertile as Flummers said.

                  Give them a chance folks, it's only the 12 May, they're being forced hard if you're expecting them to be fruiting this early. All mine are very sturdy good plants, all are outside and are growing away but nothing set yet, nor at any of my chums gardens, if they're grown outside and 'naturally' they wont be fruiting just yet.
                  TonyF, Dordogne 24220

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                  • #24
                    I grew costoluto last year (probably not a good test) but if I remember correctly they were sluggish off the mark

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                    • #25
                      I've not got a single flower on any of mine at all but i am not worried yet. Still early.
                      We plant the seed, nature grows the seed, we eat the seed - Neil, The Young Ones

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                      • #26
                        While tomatoes are self fertile, the pollen still needs to be transfered from the male part to the female part of the flower, to form a tomato. I always tap the truss of flowers with the back of my hand to shake the pollen.
                        Commercially in greenhouses, they use mini hives of bumble bees or a vibrating wand which they use like the back of a hand.

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                        • #27
                          The original post was made in July last year! We are not comparing like with like. Don't worry folks, if you haven't got toms yet!
                          Whoever plants a garden believes in the future.

                          www.vegheaven.blogspot.com Updated March 9th - Spring

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                          • #28
                            Didn't notice that! I thought I was behind with everthing, maybe I'm not doing to bad after all!!
                            "Happiness cannot come from without. It must come from within. It is not what we see and touch or that which others do for us which makes us happy; it is that which we think and feel and do, first for the other fellow and then for ourselves." Helen Keller

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by realfood View Post
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                              Commercially in greenhouses, they use mini hives of bumble bees or a vibrating wand which they use like the back of a hand.
                              That is very interesting - have I found another use for my sonic toothbrush

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Digger Don View Post
                                That is very interesting - have I found another use for my sonic toothbrush
                                Well, that's at least 3 uses for it then
                                There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those that understand binary and those that don't.

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