Tall peas?

[smallblueplanet]

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So I see!

I wondered as when looking for seeds just now I saw peas labelled as petit pois. So it's like labelling a potato variety 'new'?

[ameno]

So I see!

I wondered as when looking for seeds just now I saw peas labelled as petit pois. So it's like labelling a potato variety 'new'?

It means they're bred specifically for growing as petit pois, and have certain traits that make them well suited to it (presumably a comparatively large yield of immature peas).
It's like certain varieties of beetroot or leek which are bred primarily for picking as baby beets and baby leeks. You could pick any variety young, and you could let these "baby" varieties grow large, too, but they are bred to be better suited to young picking than other varieties might be.

I think that mangetout peas tend to be starchy but are usually grown to be picked as young immature pods and the peas themselves aren't so nice. I don't grown them now, preferring sugarsnaps or shelling peas instead.

Both mangetout and sugar snap are starchy peas. That is, the peas themselves are a starchy variety. But the pods are sweet and tender, and that's why they're grown.
Mangetout are meant to be as sweet as sugar snap. Certainly the ones I've grown in the past have been. It's just this Bijou variety that isn't, I suspect it may have to do with the fact that it's an old variety. Modern varieties have been bred for a higher sugar content.

[smallblueplanet]

It means they're bred specifically for growing as petit pois, and have certain traits that make them well suited to it (presumably a comparatively large yield of immature peas).
It's like certain varieties of beetroot or leek which are bred primarily for picking as baby beets and baby leeks. You could pick any variety young, and you could let these "baby" varieties grow large, too, but they are bred to be better suited to young picking than other varieties might be.

Gotcha. Makes sense. Can you recommend a petit pois variety?

[ameno]

Gotcha. Makes sense. Can you recommend a petit pois variety?

Nope. I don't even grow normal garden peas, much less petit pois. I find they're not worth the effort - you don't get a huge crop and the shelling takes ages. Also, I kind of think they don't taste any better than frozen peas, so why bother?
I grow only mangetout, as you get a bigger crop, they're much less work to prepare, and they are expensive to buy in the shops and usually none too fresh.

[nick the grief]

Nope. I don't even grow normal garden peas, much less petit pois. I find they're not worth the effort - you don't get a huge crop and the shelling takes ages. Also, I kind of think they don't taste any better than frozen peas, so why bother?
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You could say that about most veg but its not just about costs. I know what goes on( or doesn't go on) the stuff and you get to choose what varieties you grow - I grow a lot of heritage varieties and save the seeds not for nostalgia reasons but like rare breeds of farm animals - its the diversity which, as our climate changes they are available for breeders to use.

But that said its the reason we all garden so we have the choice (I don't bother with main crop spuds - we don't eat many so its not worth it just a few earlies)

[Sweet savory]

I have grown ne plus ultra and show perfection. Found them more productive than shorter vars on my limited space (I grow them on a tripod arrangement). Also loved the taste of both. This year am growing Alderman for the first time as my tall pea. Also always grow Douce de Provence as they are early. Will start them middle of this month.

[annie8]

I think the return on my peas is good for the space it takes. I basically use one row in a bed and because of the height it means a lot of peas for a reasonably small space.

[Penellype]

I wouldn't be without my peas - yes frozen peas are ok, but they don't work well in salads, which is how I eat most of mine. I only ever cook them if I have frozen them first. If you grow an early variety like Meteor or Douce Provence you can use the ground again from July for winter brassicas.

[smallblueplanet]

I wouldn't be without my peas - yes frozen peas are ok, but they don't work well in salads, which is how I eat most of mine. I only ever cook them if I have frozen them first. If you grow an early variety like Meteor or Douce Provence you can use the ground again from July for winter brassicas.

Resurrecting an old thread!
I'm looking for peas again. Can't remember what I grew last year - I'll check later - but they gave a poor reward.

How do you put peas in a salad Penellype or did you mean mangetout?

[Penellype]

Resurrecting an old thread!
I'm looking for peas again. Can't remember what I grew last year - I'll check later - but they gave a poor reward.

How do you put peas in a salad Penellype or did you mean mangetout?

I love raw peas straight out of the pod, so I simply shell them and add them to any salad I am making. I like mangetout but unfortunately there is quite a lot of pea moth around here and I don't like the idea of eating caterpillar infested pods!

For good maincrop yields I have never been able to beat Hurst Greenshaft.

[smallblueplanet]

I love raw peas straight out of the pod, so I simply shell them and add them to any salad I am making. I like mangetout but unfortunately there is quite a lot of pea moth around here and I don't like the idea of eating caterpillar infested pods!

For good maincrop yields I have never been able to beat Hurst Greenshaft.

I like the idea of raw peas in salad, never tried it.

[Bren In Pots]

I do the same as Pen, especially early on when there’s only a few ready, but not enough for a helping.

I grow Telephone peas years ago someone here on the vine gave me a few seeds.
I think they’re the same or similar to Alderman but I stick calling them Telephone because that’s what the envelope said.

[shannonbrooke07]

there is no such thing as tall sugar snap varieties since they were bred
for sweetness and machine harvest. sugar snap varieties were
introduced in 1979 so long after tall peas went out fashion..
weather and light conditions might be cause of the OP problem with growing them

[Nicos]

I’ve just checked online Shannon and I can see several varieties of tall sugar snap available in theUK…also in the states, claiming 5-7 ft high.

Heres one for eg..
https://www.fedcoseeds.com/seeds/sug...c-snap-pea-893

[smallblueplanet]

I've bought some Meteor - also in the Thompson & Morgan seed sale! Yes I spent more than a penny!