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    ok welcome to my first post - and sorry guys - question..............

    I've prepped three raised beds - I've feed the soil and I've forked the soil and turned it over in the cold to kill off insect eggs ect ect - now I have huge clumps of earth which would look the dogs dangles in a farmers field but are way to big and chucky for me to planet in - someone suggested I need to harrow it - i.e break it all down into a finer soil type which makes sense - question is how? Do I go at it all with a spade, chopping it up - or turn up the music, put on my dancing wellies (no white stiletto's and hand bag jokes please I know im from essex) and stomp it all down under foot??

    I need a turn my ploughed field effect into something that looks like it might be plantable instead of being ready for a re-enactment of the Somme!

    What do you guys do?

    And sorry if this is really basic - its my first day
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  • #2
    A big welcome to the vine I know someone much more experienced than me will be along to tell you what you should do, but just to add my twopennorth, I think if I was wanting to plant something NOW, then I'd break down the clumps by hitting them with the back of a fork, or one of those twisty-cultivator thingies (I've got one but don't know what it's called). If I was waiting another few weeks before planting, I'd leave the lumps a bit longer because I think the frost helps to break them down anyway and it'll be easier to break them then.
    Last edited by MaureenHall; 14-01-2009, 04:57 PM.
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    • #3
      What Maureenhall said
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      • #4
        Me too with wot Maureen said!! If you can leave it a while longer the frost will help do some of the hard work for you in breaking down the clumps. If you cant wait, then a good whack with the back of a fork should help. WHen they get down to a manageable sort of size then the rake should finish the job off for you. But all that said, a far more experienced grape should be along soon to advice ..... oh, and welcome to our happy band
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        • #5
          I was going to say let the frost get to it too.
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          • #6
            If its as bad as you say, I would be tempted to cover the whole lot with well rotted organic matter and plant through this.

            If you are trying to create a seed bed from Essex clay good luck! All you can do is let the frost do its work first then break it down with a rake by tamping first on the dry clay to break it up a bit. To get a finer tilth on the surface gradually alter the angle of your rake until the shaft is nearly vertical and the blade is just short of horizontal. A bit of old potting compost added to surface as you go will help tremendously.

            Still think it's better to mulch it!

            PS A farmer would use either a chain harrow or preferably a power harrow but on a small area using a fork nearly horizontal and using it like a scythe can give a similar effect! Make sure no-ones in the way though!
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            • #7
              yeah, let the frost get to it better to break down, if you have kids or know kids get them to jump up and down on it, break it up a little and knacker the little darlings out!!
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              • #8
                I would wait till closer to planting time then rake it about a bit (bashing with the back of the rake breaks big clumps nicely) and see how it is coming along. With all the frost we have had there is a chance that it is just plain frozen at the moment.
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                • #9
                  i tried a bit of digging yesterday, (ok i dug up some parsnips not exactly soil preparation)......and my soil is still so wet, theres no chance...... i'm gonna definitely wait till it's warmer, and hopefully the soil might have dried out a bit by then.

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                  • #10
                    cheers guys and gals - i'll leave it a bit long then ")
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                    • #11
                      If it's raised beds the soil should be ok to leave and let the frost do the work, if it's lumps of clay sometimes battering them with a fork/spade whilst frozen is useful as they are not as sticky! If you are clay then lots of sharp sand, fine grit and loads of compost are almost vital - howver clay is very rich and great stuff once workable!

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                      • #12
                        I cheated and added organic matter and planted through that. I tried breaking up the soil last year (I'm on clay), but it soon reverted to useless clods of earth! You could get all scientific and start adding sand et al, but I would do as Maureen said and use organic matter in addition.

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                        • #13
                          Cheers Vicky - fortunately im not on the Fens (Im near Romford) so the soil isnt clay its a rich deep brown.

                          Sluglobber I have already added organic matter (end of last year) - so fingers crossed it should be ok!!

                          I've only ever grown runner beans in it before and they grew lovely so I figure the soils good - only different now is I've gone form a few beans to turning the whole garden over!!
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Garyw View Post
                            Cheers Vicky - fortunately im not on the Fens (Im near Romford) so the soil isnt clay its a rich deep brown.

                            Sluglobber I have already added organic matter (end of last year) - so fingers crossed it should be ok!!

                            I've only ever grown runner beans in it before and they grew lovely so I figure the soils good - only different now is I've gone form a few beans to turning the whole garden over!!

                            Hi Gary!

                            Nice to see you! Romford eh, not that far from me, lol I live in Purfleet! My garden has nice dark brown soil as well, there is a bit of clay here and there but thank god, not so much as to make it that hard for me to dig, so long as it's not too wet that is!

                            Good luck with everything
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                            • #15
                              Have a plot party. Similar to a decorating party, but give everyong a garden fork instead of a paint roller.

                              You'll have it licked in half an hour!
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