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    OK- I own up.....didn't I put the peas into the wrong bed????

    OH had said that the pea bed was ready - so I went out and sowed 2 wide rows of peas ( 20 feet in all)
    It was peeing down and rain dripping off my nose- so I wasn't really concentrating on much other than getting them sown.

    Soo.....last night OH went to 'inspect' my handiwork......and yup- he'd prepared the OTHER bed

    2 barrowloads of muck in that one...and NONE in the bed I'd used

    Normally I'd have done he muck bit myself -sonow I have 2 rows of peas with no muck at all.

    I'm hoping to put something ontop now - maybe liquid form to get the nutrients down to the roots asap.

    Any suggestions peeps please???

    ...it's virgin soil , having had the top turf removed from a field of clover and lush cow grazing.
    "Nicos, Queen of Gooooogle" and... GYO's own Miss Marple

    Location....Normandy France

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    I grew my purple podded mangetout in ground that had been cleared of nettles and dug - no compost, no manure. Got an okay crop without feeding at all.

    I don't see why you couldn't feed them once they come up - or maybe dig a shallow trench a wee bit away from the shoots and put manure in that so as not to scorch the stems.
    Happy Gardening,
    Shirley

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    • #3
      Peas fix their own nitrogen anyway, so I'm sure they'll do fine! Just some kind of potash boost when they start flowering? Comfrey tea?

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      • #4
        AS Shirl says - I reckon they'll be OK.

        Peas fix their own nitrogen, so they're quite self sufficient. If I remember correctly the NPK value of muck is only someth1ng like 1:1:1 so its not a disaster, its more of a soil conditioner, so if your soil was in good nick maybe a bit of comfrey tea once they get going, or even a sprinkling of fish blood and bone washed in with a bit of rain would help. You could liquify the muck in a bucket and pour it on maybe?

        In my experience peaes and beans have always been fine in any old soil!

        J

        Sarz - you beat me to it.... at least I know I'm on the right lines!
        Last edited by JimmerG; 28-04-2009, 09:12 AM.

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        • #5
          I never muck a pea bed. Use that for some gross feeders. Panic not! The End of the World is NOT nigh!
          Whoever plants a garden believes in the future.

          www.vegheaven.blogspot.com Updated March 9th - Spring

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          • #6
            What to do now is sow a row on the bed that has had the muck and see what difference there is might be a good experiment see how much muck is not needed....jacob
            What lies behind us,And what lies before us,Are tiny matters compared to what lies Within us ...
            Ralph Waide Emmerson

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            • #7
              Ah...now then..I'm now starting to feel not such a plonker!

              Thanks for those ideas!!!!

              We've got comfrey growing like mad in the hedgerows- how long do the leaves need to stay in the water to make comfrey tea????

              I've got a box of fish blood and bone I could use now ( phew!)

              The 'raised beds' are only raised because we dug a trench around the bed and piled it onto the middle bit- so I could fill in the trench with a bit of compost too couldn't I??


              Our neighbours lift a brow and shrug a bit...then mutter something...and then say- "what a strange way of planting"...so we're sort of a bit keen to impress that we're not 'townies' and that there are different approaches to GYO other than traditional French methods!
              "Nicos, Queen of Gooooogle" and... GYO's own Miss Marple

              Location....Normandy France

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jacob marley View Post
                What to do now is sow a row on the bed that has had the muck and see what difference there is might be a good experiment see how much muck is not needed....jacob

                absolutely true Jacob!!!!...problem is I've run out of seed!!!...but then again- as you say...it'd be interesting.
                Hmmmm- good idea!!
                "Nicos, Queen of Gooooogle" and... GYO's own Miss Marple

                Location....Normandy France

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Nicos View Post
                  Ah...now then..I'm now starting to feel not such a plonker!

                  Thanks for those ideas!!!!

                  We've got comfrey growing like mad in the hedgerows- how long do the leaves need to stay in the water to make comfrey tea????
                  Until they're reeeally stinky Then dilute it to the colour of weak tea to use. Or, just chop the comfrey up and put it round the plants, it rots down really quickly and the worms will pull it down.

                  Originally posted by Nicos View Post
                  I've got a box of fish blood and bone I could use now ( phew!)

                  The 'raised beds' are only raised because we dug a trench around the bed and piled it onto the middle bit- so I could fill in the trench with a bit of compost too couldn't I??
                  Don't overdo it - you won't need both I don't think, BFB or compost...


                  Originally posted by Nicos View Post
                  Our neighbours lift a brow and shrug a bit...then mutter something...and then say- "what a strange way of planting"...so we're sort of a bit keen to impress that we're not 'townies' and that there are different approaches to GYO other than traditional French methods!
                  Ah, pants to em... Like the allotment chunterers that every site seems to have As long as you're getting food from your efforts, and enjoying yourself!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Nicos View Post
                    Ah...now then..I'm now starting to feel not such a plonker!

                    Thanks for those ideas!!!!

                    We've got comfrey growing like mad in the hedgerows- how long do the leaves need to stay in the water to make comfrey tea????

                    I've got a box of fish blood and bone I could use now ( phew!)

                    The 'raised beds' are only raised because we dug a trench around the bed and piled it onto the middle bit- so I could fill in the trench with a bit of compost too couldn't I??


                    Our neighbours lift a brow and shrug a bit...then mutter something...and then say- "what a strange way of planting"...so we're sort of a bit keen to impress that we're not 'townies' and that there are different approaches to GYO other than traditional French methods!
                    Comfrey tea tends to take about 4 weeks - its full of potassium so it'll help your plants to set 'fruit' so get it going now and it'll be ready when your plants are ready!

                    J

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                    • #11
                      As the others say 'stop panicking', if it was virgin soil and with clover growing in it it's probably in pretty good nick any way. Sometimes I think we worry too much about feeding, yes some crops do need it, and things in pots or growbags do, but you've got to go on growing the same crop repeatedly to really exhaust the soil of nutrients. Talk to 'em gently and they'll be fine.

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                      • #12
                        See Nicos, you go out in the rain, 8 in the evening after a long supper and several glasses of red and all hell can break loose
                        TonyF, Dordogne 24220

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                        • #13
                          Nah...that was sober!!!.can you imagine what I could get up to otherwise!!!!
                          "Nicos, Queen of Gooooogle" and... GYO's own Miss Marple

                          Location....Normandy France

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                          • #14
                            [QUOTE=Nicos;438044]Ah...

                            T.

                            We've got comfrey growing like mad in the hedgerows- how long do the leaves need to stay in the water to make comfrey tea????
                            .ss .
                            I usually let it soak for 14 days Nettles as well both stink as bad as each other....jacob
                            What lies behind us,And what lies before us,Are tiny matters compared to what lies Within us ...
                            Ralph Waide Emmerson

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                            • #15
                              Thanks- I read on another thread after I posted that...3 weeks- so clearly I better get my gloves on and start picking!!! 2-3 weeks- spot on!!!
                              "Nicos, Queen of Gooooogle" and... GYO's own Miss Marple

                              Location....Normandy France

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