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  • If I grow organically must I buy organic seeds?

    How important is this?

    If they're organic seeds, they will be more suited to a chemical-free existance and thus survive/ produce more successfully?

  • #2
    My understanding is that to call a seed organic means that it has been taken from a plant which was grown organically etc etc and although they may well be of varieties which lend themselves to organic growing I don't believe they will perform any better than the same variety in a non-organic packet. I buy normal seeds and then grow the plants without chemicals and as closely as possible to organically as I can. I am confident that my crops are good for me and have no concerns about any fertilisers etc that have been used on them. However I don't want to register as organic and therefore only need to do what I feel is necessary. I do however avoid treated seeds as I don't want to introduce such treatments into my soils. Again a personal thing.

    Some of us live in the past, always talking about back then. Some of us live in the future, always planning what we are going to do. And, then there are those, who neither look behind or ahead, but just enjoy the moment of right now.

    Which one are you and is it how you want to be?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bluemchen View Post
      How important is this?

      If they're organic seeds, they will be more suited to a chemical-free existance and thus survive/ produce more successfully?
      I think your second sentence sums it up..............if organic seed are available at a good price I would definately prefer using them. Having said that, I don't go and search them out.

      We all have to do what we feel comfortable with, but theoretically, organically produced seed should be better suited to organic growing methods methinks!
      My Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
      to present to him vegetables and all beautiful flowers.- Offerings of Thutmose III to Amon-Ra (1500 BCE)

      Diversify & prosper


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      • #4
        I agree with both Snadger AND Alison, theoretically organic seeds should do better in an organic situation, but the variety you want isn't always available organically produced. I grow organically almost to the point of obsession and always try to obtain organic seeds, but if I can't get the type I'm after I'd much rather buy non-organic than compromise with a different one. In the end it's me who has to eat the resultant crop and a huge part of the pleasure of growing your own is the flavour of the veg so I'd much rather buy the variety I like than stick rigidly to organic seeds and end up with something I don't enjoy quite as much.
        Into each life some rain must fall........but this is getting ridiculous.

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        • #5
          The other thing is that if you can't get organic seeds and use others...................... grow them organically and save your best plants for seed each year, after 3 or four years your plants will be ideally suited to organic growing I would think.
          My Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
          to present to him vegetables and all beautiful flowers.- Offerings of Thutmose III to Amon-Ra (1500 BCE)

          Diversify & prosper


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          • #6
            If you want to claim to be organic you need to use organic certified seed. Having watched a programme on bees the other day where it was stated that seed can now be bred to contain pesticides within the seed, I think the future trend will be for the majority of us to be looking towards organic seeds. Unfortunately agriculture is driven by profit which is driven by a quality saleable crop which in turn means ensuring a pest free crop regardless of the impact on the environment. (end of sermon) I just want to know what I am eating.

            Ian

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            • #7
              I got a load of organic seeds in the wyevale seed sale at 50p per pack its the Duchy range,you might still be able to pick some up

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              • #8
                Good point up there by Snadger, am trying to save more and more seeds each year (partly cos I'm tight, partly to be a bit self sufficient and also to get seeds adapted to my conditions) and that way I can have extra confidence in how my produce was produced.

                Some of us live in the past, always talking about back then. Some of us live in the future, always planning what we are going to do. And, then there are those, who neither look behind or ahead, but just enjoy the moment of right now.

                Which one are you and is it how you want to be?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by gojiberry View Post
                  If you want to claim to be organic you need to use organic certified seed. Having watched a programme on bees the other day where it was stated that seed can now be bred to contain pesticides within the seed, I think the future trend will be for the majority of us to be looking towards organic seeds. Unfortunately agriculture is driven by profit which is driven by a quality saleable crop which in turn means ensuring a pest free crop regardless of the impact on the environment. (end of sermon) I just want to know what I am eating.

                  Ian
                  It's the seeds with built in pesticides that worry me! to have organic certified seed, they have to be saved and sown a good few times and only grown in a totally organic approved method(about 5 years - could be wrong on the number but you get the idea) I am not totally organic but do try and tend towards the organic methods ( slug and snail bait is probably my biggest downfall saying that though I have only used it twice this season) Once you've settled on varieties you like, save the seed from the strongest and after a few years, not only will you have "organic" seeds, but also seeds adapted to your local environment. A winner all round. As I tend toward the more organic methods, therortically so will my seeds
                  Last edited by RedThorn; 31-08-2009, 10:25 PM.
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                  • #10
                    I am interested in using organic seeds also. May I ask about the basics of letting your plants go to seed?
                    The loud wind never reached the ship,
                    Yet now the ship moved on !
                    Beneath the lightning and the Moon
                    The dead men gave a groan.

                    They groaned, they stirred, they all uprose,
                    Nor spake, nor moved their eyes ;
                    It had been strange, even in a dream,
                    To have seen those dead men rise.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Princess Unicorn View Post
                      May I ask about the basics of letting your plants go to seed?
                      Basically, just that: you leave the plants to make seed. then you harvest the seed. more info here> How To Save Seed
                      All gardeners know better than other gardeners." -- Chinese Proverb.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Two_Sheds View Post
                        Basically, just that: you leave the plants to make seed. then you harvest the seed. more info here> How To Save Seed
                        Thank you very much!
                        The loud wind never reached the ship,
                        Yet now the ship moved on !
                        Beneath the lightning and the Moon
                        The dead men gave a groan.

                        They groaned, they stirred, they all uprose,
                        Nor spake, nor moved their eyes ;
                        It had been strange, even in a dream,
                        To have seen those dead men rise.

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