Help I need a bean expert

[binley100]

Thanks Zaz I'll give it a go..........

[taff]

I htink it's common mosaic virus
Common Mosaic Virus - Disease in Dry Beans Tour | Bean Info | Saginaw Valley Dry Bean & Sugar Beet Research Farm

[teakdesk]

Could you post a close-up of the under side of the leaf?

Are the bubbles the same on the underside?

Have you cut across the leaf/bubbles with a very sharp knife?


I'm sure I've seen similar before but probably on chillis - I pulled the leaves off and everything was Ok.

[womble]

I hope it's not the virus binley, but it looks like it might be.

If it was me. I'd be taking the affected leaves off and even cutting back any affected stems if I thought it needed, if the plants are going to survive they will grow new ones.

If you decide to get rid of them, do it asap and get something else in there.
You could start off some more beans in modules now, which although not perfect, will be a good back up if it all goes pear shaped.

[Two_Sheds]

they looked like they'd been sprayed with roundup

my first thought was it looks like the dock leaves I sprayed with roundup

Roundup makes the leaves turn yellow, or brown & crispy (depending on the age of the plant sprayed).
I know, coz someone has done all the sunflowers I planted along the lotty fence

[binley100]

Had an e-mail back from RHS they said it looks like weedkiller damage. Which I find strange as I have never used weedkiller also noone has access to them without me knowing.
I think I'll try taking them off and giving a seaweed feed. Sow some backups as well.
TS that's awful that someones done that, do you think it was deliberate ? Will they survive?

[Two_Sheds]

TS that's awful that someones done that, do you think it was deliberate ? Will they survive?

Yes it was deliberate. Some of the old boys don't like flowers, and don't like allotmenteers getting above their station & planting where it's not on their own plot.

My neighbour's tomatoes were done at the same time. He's on the committee and has put a few backs up this year.

[rogesse]

I dispair sometimes - our lottie site has also seen an outbreak of weedkiller sprayings, all because the council stuck it's nose in and decided to redefine the plot boundaries. People who have rubbed along for years are now at war with their neighbours all over the odd yard here or there!

A friend on another site nearby has had her shed burned to the ground because her husband is 'foreign' (welsh!) - by an eighty year old jewish chap originally from Poland!

What is wrong with these people?

Rant over - sorry I can't help with the beans!

[taff]

Hope it's not the virus. I think some of mine may have it. Got some yellow climbing beans last year, they're not growing well, and the leaves are beginning to look bobbly like that....

[binley100]

I ran up the lottie this morning, picked off the scabby leaves and gave a good feed with seaweed stuff. I won't be able to get up there till sunday, would a foliar feed help or sahall I give htem another root feed (If they are still alive that is).Showed the leaves to an oldie up there and he said he;s never seen it before. Took more pics....first pic is off a runner bean (the only one to survive decapitation)

[elisa k]

Hey - Don't know if you ever got this resolved or not, but we have the same issue with beans, tomatoes, and potatoes (and to a lesser extent cucurbits) in the community gardens that we have started on the estate where I live. The site was originally overgrown and the grounds keeper just had it sprayed with what HE says was roundup to make it easier to clear. We then had topsoil and mushroom compost brought in (though we had no idea of or control over where that was sourced).

After two years running of problems, I have found almost exactly the same symptoms described as the result of aminopyralid contamination. (I know that zazen999 mentioned this right below your first post. ) I think it is more usually a problem with manure, (Aminopyralid contamination leaves gardens barren for a year - The Gardeners Calendar ) but it somehow found its way into our plots, so it must have been in the mushroom compost or topsoil - or maybe the groundskeeper was misinformed about the herbicide that was sprayed initially.

We are two years running with this problem, and although it seems to be getting a little better, we are still struggling with beans and toms.

Maybe other people have a different idea about this, and I am no expert, but our grounds guy simply did not believe me when I suggested it might be herbicide residue so I did a LOT of net research and this is what has come up over and over again, and my beans look exactly like the images you supplied here.

[binley100]

Well, just to catchup. The french beans have been cropping well although some slow to climb. Some leaves still look odd tho'. My toms were slow to get going but are now doing well ,and the runners haven't really recovered from being eaten by god knows what. So if it is dodgy manure its been very selective in whats been affected. We only grew early pots and they were all fine with no problems at all .

[salilah]

Some of my beans on one bed look similar - a "bobbling" of the leaves, darker green. There are blackfly but on the runner beans at the end, the bobbly leaves are in the middle. And yes, not cropping much; and yes, could be the manure I guess though my supplier did assure me they hadn't had any problems! I won't keep bean seeds in case...
<sigh>

[OllieMartin]

Have you dug in any manure this year?

Yes but the spuds have been fine, the mange tout are growing well , I've got cucs that are flowering . Garlic has been brill so I think if it was manure probs other stuff would be affected surely?

Last year I manured the potato bed and also planted tomatoes and chillies in it. ONE lone tomato plant was contaminated with a virus, but the rest of the plants were all fine.
I wouldn't rule out roundup or other weedkiller damage, it could just be in one lump of the manure directly underneath that plant.

[binley100]

Last year I manured the potato bed and also planted tomatoes and chillies in it. ONE lone tomato plant was contaminated with a virus, but the rest of the plants were all fine.
I wouldn't rule out roundup or other weedkiller damage, it could just be in one lump of the manure directly underneath that plant.

Has your stuff been ok this year ?