Long lasting effects of aminopyralid

[realfood]

Our allotments were badly affected two years ago. This year I planted potatoes on a bed that had the aminopyralid contaminated manure two years ago and has been well dug over several times since. There was no sign of the curly leaves this year, but it is now obvious that there is still a residual effect. The shaws are much smaller and stunted than on an adjacent bed which had none of the contaminated manure. The yield will be well down.
Checked with another plotter who has noticed the same effect. The moral is it can take up to three years cultivation to hopefully eliminate the aminopyralid.

[salilah]

Yeah - I topped up the tomato bed with compost from 2 years ago (a bit) and they are showing all the signs (aargh)
what a pain!!
Mind you, it had been in a container away from rain - so maybe the stuff needs washing out rather than just time?

[FIREMAN627]

george monbiot published this article on the guardian,s website on the 15th july , its called" has beans" and relates to the ongoing probs that people are having re aminopyralid, lets vote and get this chemical removed from use because it is obvious that it is being used incorrectly and people all over are being affected!

[realfood]

A link to the gardian article and the associated comments is here :- Have you spotted a strange curling disease in your home-grown veg? | George Monbiot | Environment | guardian.co.uk

[Aberdeenplotter]

Excellent article

[zazen999]

Yup, our beds are still affected and we had a majority taken away by Dow after I demanded they at least dispose of it. Even where the stuff had just sat and not been dug in, the plants are still not growing properly - including swede which are supposed to be unaffected.

One line of potatoes have very curly leaves, and the potatoes that didn't grow last year have regrown this year, some with curly leaves and some without.

My neighbour has lost loads of fruit plants; as he had dug it in and planted his fruit bed right on top of the stuff.

The problem is that stocks of contaminated hay are still working their way through the system; and stashes of manure that were stockpiled to rot down are also now just being used. It's going to be a long long time before we see the end of this issue. One of the blokeys on our plot who wasn't around to have his taken away when I organised it; and didn't follow up - just spread it on his plot. which means that when he has to give it up next year [he doesn't do alot on that plot so will probably lose it] - the newbies will get a shock when they are told about it - probably by us as the parish councillor isn't going to mention it is he?

[Ken the Chef]

My tub grown Tomatoes, planted in 50/50 manure and peat free compost were affected.
Autumn raspberries and Blackberries are showing the signs.
I have dug in small amounts into my raised beds; cabbages, sprouts and most leaf veg just die off a few weeks after planting. Fifteen Sweet corn plants just about made two or three half fill cobs.
Peas, Mange tout and Beetroot did not seem to be affected. One success was Onions 120 out of 120 grew to maturity and so far storing well.
I have just disposed of all the containers of the stuff to the tip.
I will not be going to the stables for manure again.

[zazen999]

Sweetcorn are not affected, as they are a grass; that will just be a bad year. My neighbour lost his whole fruit collection, and half his plot was rasps, jostas, strawbs, currants; they all look completely rubbish.

[Ananke]

Realfood, I didn't realise there were problems in Glasgow with contamination.

Makes green manures sound a lot more attractive

[realfood]

Yes, I know of two allotment associations in Glasgow that were affected three years ago, but I suspect that there may have been others that have not realized what the problem is, as it has not been publicized enough. Remember to do the "bean test" before applying any manure.

[Two_Sheds]

Is anyone preparing an invoice for loss of crops, for the manufacturers? I would, but then I am a trouble maker

[zazen999]

Is anyone preparing an invoice for loss of crops, for the manufacturers? I would, but then I am a trouble maker

They blame the user.

[Two_Sheds]

The user being the poor sucker who unwittingly bought contaminated manure ?

[zazen999]

No the user of the herbicide. As it should not have been sold on. Hence, not their fault.

Don't get me started!

[Newton]

What is the bean test?