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    I added this to my 'lessons learned' list, and wonder if anybody has any idea what might have gone wrong.
    One newly dug part of our garden needs investigating, because nothing that was planted in it has grown, and some things died within a couple of weeks of going into the ground. It can't be aminopyralid because it wasn't manured, and we haven't used any weedkiller on any part of our garden (including the gravel drive) this year.

    We planted our beans here, some left over leeks and a few spare celeriac as well as some marigolds, a squash and a cucumber.

    The beans have only just reached the tops of their strings, some of them aren't even half way.

    The marigolds curled up their toes, the leeks are no bigger than when they went in, the squash and cucumber died.

    The only thing that seems vaguely okay is the celeriac, they're really tiddly, but were spares that should have been thrown away - so we don't know if they'd have done better somewhere else.

    It was freshly 'double dug' from lawn, same as the main veg patch. The grass was fine before it was dug up.

    The subsoil was broken up, but not brought upwards, well rotted stuff from the compost heap and kitchen waste was mixed into the lower spit, then covered with a mixture of soil and shop-bought compost (cheap split bags) to act as a 'soil improver', because the soil's such heavy clay - same as the other new veg patch. Oh, and it got some BFB too, and was allowed to rest a while before anything was planted.

    We did exactly the same with our bigger, also new-this-year, veg patch and have got some fairly decent crops - except for Basil, which simply refuses to get more than four leaves. Both patches have been looked after equally 'well' since they were dug.

  • #2
    My neighbour had this, [we have allotment style gardens out the back] and it turned out the person with the back gate next to her patch rinsed her wheelie bin out with ***** and it had splashed/run off onto that particular patch.

    What other differences are there - soil type? shade/light differences? proximity to downpipe or wastepipe?

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    • #3
      could well be simply that the lawn has depleted the area of nutrients over the years (grass does need feeding) and that the crops you planted didn't reach the compost you dug in. Could also be a ph problem so maybe worthwhile investing in a soil test kit. If the soil is too acid (low ph ) an application of lime in the springtime should help

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      • #4
        is there a tree growing anywhere near it? maybe next to a fence or something? I have one bed that is terrible for growing things no matter what I put in it because next door have an enormous vine thing growing over a pergola thing and his conservatory roof that pinches all the water.

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        • #5
          If the area is under a tree it could be the tree shading and depleting the nutrients....or maybe a high fence etc??

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          • #6
            if its just poor ground,we put alpine strawbs in our poor patch,they love it,grown from seed they fruit first year,and they then fruit from the start of july each year until the frosts,and as they keep producing as long as you keep picking you get a lot more than you would with short cropping ordinary strawbs,ours are 4/5 years old now and cropping like mad,even with a summer like we have had,seeds cost us £1.40, so they dont bust the bank...

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            • #7
              Hmmm, you've got me thinking, which isn't always the smartest of things to happen. Thanks for the ideas.

              The last people who lived here did all sorts of fairly silly things in the garden, but there's been no evidence of anything being spilled or poured onto this patch - the grass was okay. The nearest 'tree' is a magnolia, but it's about 15, maybe 20 feet away, same with the hedge, both seem to grow okay.

              Maybe it's just because it's heavy clay and hasn't been dug for years and years. The way the land falls means it doesn't get over-wet in the winter, so I'm thinking AberdeenPlotter's probably right, and we didn't put enough good stuff close enough to the surface. WE'll have to try to make up for it, by putting a good mulch on top this winter and hope for the best for next year.

              The only other thing that might have caused a problem is that old air rolls downhill, or at least I think it does. Maybe it's been just that bit too cold.

              We've got lots of self-seeded 'wild' strawberries everywhere, I'm not sure if we'd be willing to give them space in their own bed, but we're going to have to think very carefully about what we grow in this patch next year.

              Any other ideas?

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              • #8
                Have you thought of putting a photo up - it's very hard to tell without seeing the area.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by zazen999 View Post
                  Have you thought of putting a photo up - it's very hard to tell without seeing the area.
                  I haven't got a camera at the moment, otherwise I would. Sorry

                  I think we'll have to try to feed it as much as possible over the winter, and hope for the best next year.

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