Compost making

[Gorsty]

OK!!! I'll move the compost heap then- it would make more sense to move it closer to the veg plot but the sunny bit has already been taken over by raised borders and an electrified fence area for my cluckies.

Hope the grass starts to grow soon - can't wait to get composting properly.

Thanks again

Gorsty

[Two_Sheds]

when wood shavings rot down / decompose they rob the soil of nitrogen

That may depend on how much carbon there is (wood shavings soaked in urine are obviously higher in nitrogen than dry wood shavings):
"A C:N ratio of 20:1 ...is the upper limit at which there is no danger of robbing the soil of nitrogen... The C:N ratio is a critical factor in composting to prevent both nitrogen robbing from the soil " http://whatcom.wsu.edu/ag/compost/fu...n_nitrogen.htm

manure with straw rots down quicker with straw

Nope, I've read this four times and still don't get it ...

[singleseeder]

PS. the best easiest way to get carbon in your kitchen scraps is to wrap them in a sheet or two of newspaper, chip shop stylee

Oooh, snap. I keep a pile of sheets of newspaper on top of the dishwasher/under the worktop ready for use. Also fold a sheet to fit the bottom of the little container I use for collecting waste in the kitchen.

[singleseeder]

It's tidier too. I peel everyhting onto a sheet of newspaper, wrap it up and pop it in a bag. If you 'forget' about it for a day or two, you don't get the smell either.

Oooh, snap too!

A bag of chip shop parcels are kept in the garage till I walk to the lottie.

[allotment grower]

That may depend on how much carbon there is (wood shavings soaked in urine are obviously higher in nitrogen than dry wood shavings):
"A C:N ratio of 20:1 ...is the upper limit at which there is no danger of robbing the soil of nitrogen... The C:N ratio is a critical factor in composting to prevent both nitrogen robbing from the soil " Compost Fundamentals: Compost Needs - Carbon Nitrogen Relationships

Nope, I've read this four times and still don't get it ...

2 sheds..

Rather than spending all your time POSTING COMMENTS or correcting my spelling mistakes perhaps i should send them to you first... FOR APPROVAL..

Sawdust or wood chipping dug into a trench below an crop will draw all the nutrients out of the soil including nitrogen....?...

[Matt94]

allotment grower please try not to take any offence, im sure two sheds was only trying to help!

[Two_Sheds]

Rather than spending all your time POSTING COMMENTS or correcting my spelling mistakes perhaps i should send them to you first... FOR APPROVAL

Am I not supposed to comment then? I thought this was an open forum, a place for discussion. My mistake.

[Newton]

23453 v 70

That is 23452 very useful comments. The other one she mistakenly took as a sarcastic criticism.......it wasn't meant to be .....sorry!

Keep going though AG.

[allotment grower]

We all have different views and idea's and rights to them..

2 sheds is right to conterdict other posts it just seems that the majority of 2 sheds posts are quotes of other members and her ability to go into depth info on compost links and info from the net including human manure..

Original post about using wood shavings -yes they can be composted
should they be put straight into the ground.?..

my advice was to compost them first..

Defencive yes..

[Two_Sheds]

the majority of 2 sheds posts are quotes of other members and her ability to go into depth info

And that's a problem why?

I 'quote' the original post because I am addressing a particular point. I may be adding information, giving an alternative viewpoint, or whatever. Most other people quote too: are you having a go at all of them, or just me?

Perhaps you think nobody should ever contradict you, or ask for clarification on one of your points? I don't accept the first thing I hear or read as gospel. I question it: I ask why? where? how?

If someone says "don't compost sawdust" or "don't compost blighted foliage" then I'll think OK, but why not? How could it be done?

Should I not speak of human manure because it offends YOU? Or because I had a recent spat with your mate Bazzaboy about it?

Should I just be a good little woman and get back in the kitchen?

[kathyd]

Oh dear, this is why it's sometimes difficult to hold discussions in writing rather than face to face, isn't it? I suspect people are reading things into posts which weren't intended to cause offence, it's just the way they've been put.

There's a huge amount of experience and goodwill on this forum, and people are really willing to share their knowledge and help others out. However, we all like to share our knowledge and skills in different ways, and not every approach will suit everyone - but this variety is what makes the forum such an excellent resource and so useful for such a wide range of people.

I'm sure that sometimes we won't agree with someone, and we may not even 'like' them very much, but we can still respect their experience and knowledge. As gardeners we love 'diversity', so let's try to appreciate it in our relationships with people as well as plants and insects!

[veggiechicken]

It doesn't matter how simple the question, there will always be a variety of answers, and we frequently do not agree with each other. What is important is that we share our knowledge and experiences because this is the way to learn new techniques - if we want to! Some suggestions may be a step too far or inappropriate, in our own, very personal, circumstances, but we know that they exist and can choose.
Let us all be good friends and agree to differ!

[Matt94]

well said VC

[allotment grower]

And that's a problem why?

I 'quote' the original post because I am addressing a particular point. I may be adding information, giving an alternative viewpoint, or whatever. Most other people quote too: are you having a go at all of them, or just me?

Perhaps you think nobody should ever contradict you, or ask for clarification on one of your points? I don't accept the first thing I hear or read as gospel. I question it: I ask why? where? how?

If someone says "don't compost sawdust" or "don't compost blighted foliage" then I'll think OK, but why not? How could it be done?

Should I not speak of human manure because it offends YOU? Or because I had a recent spat with your mate Bazzaboy about it?

Should I just be a good little woman and get back in the kitchen?

You could put the kettle on... only joking....

I did not mean to go off on one and single out yourself.

some posts are asking for advice and most are helpful and honist

then some just go off on a tangent to contridict the information or go off the plot completly quoting others including posting advice that may no be suitable for the original client / POSTS..

You had a recent spat with bazzerboy so it is not just me.. you have like to humour...

Hope we can let this go under MISINTERPRETATION of the post. and i will be more CLEAR on the information i give in the future.

[zazen999]

then some just go off on a tangent to contridict the information or go off the plot completly quoting others including posting advice that may no be suitable for the original client / POSTS..

You had a recent spat with bazzerboy so it is not just me.. you have like to humour...

Hope we can let this go under MISINTERPRETATION of the post. and i will be more CLEAR on the information i give in the future.

There is nothing wrong about contradicting information - often that's the way some old wives tales get put where they should be - in the bin

I don't think your singling out of Two-Sheds was a misinterpretation at all and I think an apology is in order personally.

If you have trouble with people discussing a point or going off at a tangent, you might want to reconsider being on this forum - tangets and discussion are one of our finer qualities. I know other forums stop the tangets but that's one of the things that makes us so different, we positively encourage it.