Help. ? Cucumber mosaic virus.

[Paulottie]

Plant Doctor, Doctor I think I'm dying!

Nice one Snadger. The heathy new leaf thing is what made me wonder and say hang fire until you are sure Jane.

"It could just be the poor treatment you gave them you meanie...it often is in these cases"

Another good tonic is 'maxicrop seaweed.' I'm stll here hoping for the best.

[chickenjane]

Nice one Snadger. The heathy new leaf thing is what made me wonder and say hang fire until you are sure Jane.

"It could just be the poor treatment you gave them you meanie...it often is in these cases"

Another good tonic is 'maxicrop seaweed.' I'm still here hoping for the best.

Well I've given them a good feed with a 'well known' multi purpose crop food bought fresh from gdn centre.(osmocote is 10yrs old,compost was farm shop's last season's stock & kept outdoors all winter.)
Just goes to show that excessive thrift doesn't always work in the end.

Also having trawled the web for a decent pic of CMV on courgette or similar & failed,I've now found one on RHS site.Put it below.Looks totally diff from what I've got. but still staring wistfully down at them, unwilling to touch them etc.

PS have read In Dr Stephan Butchazki (sp?) book that there are hundreds of wild hosts for CMV.Think f a plant & it'll harbour it.
this includes teasel & guess what has seeded itself in & around compost heaps?

[Paulottie]

As Mrskp said I guess you can worry too much, maybe take the hope for the best option.

Yours fearfully

paranoid of sussex!

[chickenjane]

Well I've given them a good feed with a 'well known' multi purpose crop food bought fresh from gdn centre.(osmocote is 10yrs old,compost was farm shop's last season's stock & kept outdoors all winter.)
Just goes to show that excessive thrift doesn't always work in the end.

Also having trawled the web for a decent pic of CMV on courgette or similar & failed,I've now found one on RHS site.Put it below.Looks totally diff from what I've got. but still staring wistfully down at them, unwilling to touch them etc.

PS have read In Dr Stephan Butchazki (sp?) book that there are hundreds of wild hosts for CMV.Think f a plant & it'll harbour it.
this includes teasel & guess what has seeded itself in & around compost heaps?

CMV pic below (take 2)

[Flummery]

Hmm. Now THAT looks rough! Much worse than the splash/scorching most of us get. Fortunately.

[Alison]

Thankfully have never seen that in the leaf so to speak!

[Protea]

Have you used any kind of herbicide or moss killer on the lawn or on any plants within a reasonable distance, where the spray might have blown onto the plants?

The patern on the leaves looks like virus, but doesn't seem to cover all of the leaf, just patches, which would possibly indicate herbicide damage, and would account for the fact that the newer leaves look healthy and the plant is still growing.

[chickenjane]

Hmm. Now THAT looks rough! Much worse than the splash/scorching most of us get. Fortunately.

Yup.horrid is't it.
I think if I'd seen this to start with I wouldn't have worrid so much.
I'm fairly confident now.that mine is some sort of scorching

Thankfully have never seen that in the leaf so to speak!

Quite!

Have you used any kind of herbicide or moss killer on the lawn or on any plants within a reasonable distance, where the spray might have blown onto the plants?

Nope .No poisons at all. But a good thought.


I've since had a long & interesting conversation with a man from Chase rganics.(the seed arm of HDRA). He rang with a query over my order & we got chatting about the world in general & CMV in particular.
He said.
1. CMV is v common & widespread but with huge variation in frequency in different areas.
2. Some newer pumpkins have been bred to be resistant to it.But it mutates all the time & thus their resistance is not guarenteed.
3. unfortuneatly the mutated strains don't seem to be any less damaging to the plant.
4.(&this I didn't really get) that you can get infections without the symptoms & vice versa.
5.He ended up saing the only solution was to grow the plant in a giant bubble
The patern on the leaves looks like virus, but doesn't seem to cover all of the leaf, just patches, which would possibly indicate herbicide damage, and would account for the fact that the newer leaves look healthy and the plant is still growing.