Bitter truth of clean plot...

[Dotty Sarah]

It's terrible that this has happened but looking on the bright side it might mean less slugs this year...

[LincolnshireFloyd]

@Snadger

After you have shed the snide comments please read my last sentence again and then work out the logic.

[veggiechicken]

Perhaps you could explain your logic in plain English as its lost on me

[Alison]

Perhaps you could explain your logic in plain English as its lost on me

Lost on me too although Snadger's post made perfect sense.

[Keymel64]

My plot was spray prior to us getting our plot. It now looks like its never been sprayed and the soil is full of organisms, so whatever was used has very little if any effect on our plot.

[LincolnshireFloyd]

Oh dear. Glyphosate only works through foliage and is not a pre emergent herbicide. Therefore any plants that grow on the plot from now on cannot possibly contain glyphosate. If it were possible for the plants to take up glyphosate from the soil (which it isn't) they wouldn't have grown at all would they. That includes any future weeds as the previous poster has found.

[binley100]

I for one would not like to eat food which may have residues in it which is one reason why I grow my own.....think you need to do a bit of reading ..

Roundup More Toxic Than Officially Declared - New Study

[Pineberry]

Poison? Blimey you don't half get melodramatic. After you've had a good cropping season on the new plot I hope you will drop the council a note thanking them for saving you a lot of hard work. On second thoughts there is no obvious reason why the council would do it. I makes no difference to them.

My suspicions would be that one of your neighbours did it after getting fed up with weed seeds being blown on to his plot which is understandable.

Any crops that you harvest will not be 'poisonous' from glyphosate. If they were they wouldn't have grown would they.

I tend to question the safety of many chemicals, and disagree with the use of many of them. We do not know their full effect on our health and enviroment. It's only now people becoming more aware about the harm they can do for us.

As for your opinion that "if harvest was poisonous from glyphosate they would not have grown would they" . Of course they would still use it, for as long as they could get away with it. It's all to maximise the profit until a risk of lawsuits and compensations followed by government ban.

[MartinRSharpe]

While I don't use weed killers (don't need to, chop down, cover, dig up works for me), some of the posts do come across as a tad on the melodramatic side.

Roundup isn't going to turn your carrots into orange daggers of death :-P

With that "Why Glyphosate Should be Banned" info, do bare in mind that just because it is has been published somewhere does not mean it is correct. Monsanto don't exactly have the best history with telling the truth but there is more evidence in the last 40-50 years to suggest it is relatively safe in the majority of situations.

[Martin H]

To be fair, the report ought to be "Roundup might be more toxic than officially declared".

Statements such as "The agencies’ opinions are wrong because they are made on the basis of lax assessments and much of the industry data is kept confidential, meaning that a full and transparent assessment cannot be carried out. These assessments are therefore neither neutral nor independent" just sound like bad science.

If more tests are needed because the prior ones did not properly account for some aspects of the practical use of roundup, that's one thing. But it sounds like the only negative test results come from making rats drink roundup, or eat roundup-resistant plants that contain significant roundup residues.

I distrust large agrochemical corporations at least as much as the next person, but I felt this summary was more scaremongering than informative.

[Snadger]

Monsanto would have us believe you can use Roundup as a condiment on your chips, its so safe. Well if you want to do that, be my guest.

To me it's a poison.

[binley100]

tis not necessarily the glysophate which is the problem.......
If you read the following quote
Context: Glyphosate is supposed to be the "active ingredient" of Roundup, the most widely used herbicide in the world, and it is present in a large group of Roundup-like herbicides. It has been safety tested on mammals for the purposes of regulatory risk assessment. But the commercial formulations of these pesticides as they are sold and used contain added ingredients (adjuvants). These are often classified confidential and described as "inerts". However, they help to stabilize the chemical compound glyphosate and help it to penetrate plants, in the manner of corrosive detergents. The formulated herbicides (including Roundup) can affect all living cells, especially human cells. This danger is overlooked because glyphosate and Roundup are treated as the same by industry and regulators in long-term studies. The supposed non-toxicity of glyphosate serves as a basis for the commercial release of Roundup. The health and environmental agencies and pesticide companies assess the long-term effects on mammals of glyphosate alone, and not the full formulation. The details of this regulatory assessment are jealously kept confidential by companies like Monsanto and health and environmental agencies.

[LincolnshireFloyd]

I for one would not like to eat food which may have residues in it which is one reason why I grow my own.....think you need to do a bit of reading ..

Roundup More Toxic Than Officially Declared - New Study

I've read a lot about the use of glyphosate thank you.
The article you have supplied a link to does not in any shape or form conclude that plants can take up glyphosate as a pre emergent herbicide which is the point I was making and the logic seems to have gone over the heads of a few.
I wouldn't advise drinking glyphosate nor would I advice drinking white spirit or washing up liquid but pleeeeese understand the nature of the herbicide and how it works.

[binley100]

Well I for one am not prepared to take the risk ....what you do is up to you . It's not like I'd be eating any of your veg anyway ..

[veggiechicken]

I am not professing to understand all the issues that are being raised here. However, Glyphosate/Roundup is a "poison" as it is used to kill plants. It may work by contact with vegetation but some of this "poison" will inevitably fall upon the soil. Until someone can assure me 100% that this has NO effect on the soil, then it is a contaminant. It is Guilty until proven innocent.
You can argue the rights and wrongs of its use until you are blue in the face, but none of that stuff will ever cross my doorstep - and I am not the only one who feels this way.