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  • My new layout for 2014

    Last year around late spring / early summer, the layout for my back yard was like this....



    To be honest at that stage it wasn't too bad, but as the season moved on it became a sprawling mass, and there was simply no room for me.

    Where the patio furniture was, is the same place as the socket for they airer. This meant I could sit outside or dry my washing, but not both. I decided this year would be different. I also found that traditional veg was costing me more to grow than to buy, so I figured why not buy the standard cheap stuff, and grow other stuff instead. There were other problems too. The maintenance was too high for me to keep up with, and I didn't want to be looking at netting and protective measure whilst relaxing in the garden. Yes, I wanted to grow food - but not at the expense of having a nice place to sit, have a BBQ and get all the other fun and function aside from crop production. I decided I needed a whole new format and different objectives next time round.

    When I started this year, it was a disaster zone of abandoned pots and general detritus, and not looking very appealing at all.



    I kind of knew what I wanted to try and achieve, but wasn't sure if I could actually create it.

    I wanted ...
    • a little more space round the seating
    • more perennials and bushes
    • something lower maintenance
    • space to peg out the laundry and still enjoy the garden
    • to move away from traditional veg



    The image I had in mind was something along these lines.



    It's all well and good having a dream, but making it a reality isn't always plain sailing. It's taken me till now to get a base template for this years layout, and it does differ somewhat from the original plans, for example moving a couple of trees up into the veg area, and having to incorporate a number of late night drunken internet purchases, but the overall concept is there and actually looks like it might work out better than originally planned.

    There will still be more shuffling and shifting as time goes on, and I still need to engineer more space for other plants that are currently growing on windowsills indoors, or that I haven't received or sown yet. That said I am happy that my garden is going to be a nicer place to relax in this year, will be less of a time burden through the season, and will still give me lots of yummy goodies to munch on. Even now at the beginning of March, the garden feels a lot more inviting than it did last year, and there will be a wider diversity of plants, visual interest, and a whole raft of culinary oddities as a reward for my efforts.

    There's still an enormous amount of work to be done, but I now feel like I'm finally making visible advances towards acheiving what I wanted. For too long I've been working on it, but not having much to show for it. From that perspective I now feel like I'm starting to turn the corner.

    Here's the template in place as it stands today.


  • #2
    Wow, what a transformation. That's the beauty of containers, it can all move, although not without some huffing and puffing no doubt. There's nothing like living with, and using a garden that makes you realise the practicalities. Well done for biting the bullet now and not carrying on. Let's hope we have a good growing year.

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    • #3
      Thanks Wendy. Yeah, some of those pots are bloomin' heavy

      Some of them can't be moved at all when full. I've sited a huge grow bag in the top right hand corner for the Jerusalem Artichokes. It was half full of soil and took two blokes to move it. Some of them aren't just a matter of weight either. I need to be 110% sure of the location for the strawberry planters, as once they're potted up (80L of compost each) they are'nt strong enough to be moved without collapsing. I did have three upright planters which I was going to use for the Checkerberry, but one of those broke because I tried to move it with too much soil in and had to put two plants in one pot

      Really looking forward to the season starting now Not quite sure how I'm going to create space for the rest of the plants yet though ...

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      • #4
        I know what you mean by a sprawling mass. This was my patio area in July last year:


        The really scary thing is, last year I was growing about 50 varieties, this year it is upto 62 I've measured and allocated space for everything, but judging by that photo I may have miscalculated

        A friend of mine has come to the rescue however - she has hurt herself falling off a horse and will not be doing gardening for a while, so she is lending me her veg garden for the summer. I wonder if I can fill hers up too...
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        A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP. - Leonard Nimoy

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        • #5
          I really wish I took more photos last year Penellype, particularly when it was at it's busiest. I was looking earlier today, but the ones I have only show a small part of the garden at any time, and before the plants got to their largest size. Nothing shows the full scale of the chaos that ensued unfortunately. These pics are about a month or so before it got really stupid ...







          It kind of looked impressive, and I did get some lovely grub, but it wasn't fun or a nice place to chill out if you know what I mean. I still want impressive, and I still want lovely grub, but I also want fun and relaxation.

          I also ought to update my plant list as I've kind of lost track of how many varieties I have going this year
          Last edited by AllInContainers; 02-03-2014, 08:32 PM.

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          • #6
            Now I've achieved the rough template for the garden, I've been studying everything to try and maximise the growing space in terms of variety and planting density without starving anything of light and air. The pic above shows growing space for most of the stuff I'm after this year, but there are some things - a lot of things actually - I still have to engineer space for.

            Asparagus Peas
            Hyacinth Beans (pots sorted - growing space still in question)
            Outdoor Chillis
            Minnesota Midget Melon
            Huckleberries (black and golden)
            Inca Berries
            More Queensland Arrowroot (only one pot there provisionally at the moment)
            Skyscraper Lillies (bulbs currently sat at the PO collection office)
            Sage (existing pot needs dividing)
            .... and I think I'm going to be gifted a tomato plant too ....

            Not only will these not fit as extra pots as it stands, but most need full sun too This means they all need to go to the right hand side of the garden from the arch to the strawberry planter, and possibly beyond, with the longest growing season items sited towards the back. I do actually have the pots ... well, patio growbags actually, unless I switch some stuff about .... I just need room to put them.

            I'm thinking I can get most of the blueberry bushes over to the left hand side, where they'll still get morning sun. The central divide between the seating area and where the clothes airer goes, can possibly go from two deep to 2.5 deep if I stagger them.

            Once I've created the extra space (or not as the case may be) I'll take some more piccies, but I'll take pics of the various areas to show what I'm trying to cram where ... and then you can all form an orderly queue to tell me what I'm doing wrong and why it won't work

            EDIT: Oops! Forgot about the Bulgarian Giant Leek I have seeds for too. I want to get two or three of those squeezed in if possible
            Last edited by AllInContainers; 03-03-2014, 10:30 PM.

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            • #7
              I envy your planning skills, I start off well then stuff just gets thrown in to see what happens, I like to think of it as 'naturalist' AKA a mess
              Last edited by GardenGayle; 03-03-2014, 10:32 PM.

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              • #8
                Would it be possible to hang containers/pots for your herbs on that bit of wooden trellis visable in the background? Even maybe for strawbs or toms?

                Just thinking
                DottyR

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by GardenGayle View Post
                  I envy your planning skills, I start off well then stuff just gets thrown in to see what happens, I like to think of it as 'naturalist' AKA a mess
                  Thanks Gayle, I'm actually hoping that mine looks quite naturalistic too (apart from a sea of low level plactic of course). I actually prefer gardens to look "organic" rather than heavilly structured. Organised chaos - can't beat it

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dorothy rouse View Post
                    Would it be possible to hang containers/pots for your herbs on that bit of wooden trellis visable in the background? Even maybe for strawbs or toms?

                    Just thinking
                    Do you mean the blue one that's now tucked behind the shed Dotty? It's quite feeble in construction to be honest. It was suposedly holding back the laurel (that was overshadowing the entire veg area till I cut a quadrant out of it last year), but once the laurel had gone, I realised it was that which was supporting the trellis To be honest, I hadn't really come up with a viable use for it, and it was half-destined to become chimenea fodder

                    As for strawbs, the two planters either side of the patio table will hold about 30 plants each (normal in front and on top, and alpines behind). I can't really use the back wall for support either, as that's where the dahlia yams, jerusalem artichokes, and persimmon tree are, which are all going to be 2m+

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                    • #11
                      Well it looks whitish to me, above the white wall, no, not the blue one.
                      DottyR

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Penellype View Post
                        I know what you mean by a sprawling mass. This was my patio area in July last year:
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                        The really scary thing is, last year I was growing about 50 varieties, this year it is upto 62 I've measured and allocated space for everything, but judging by that photo I may have miscalculated

                        A friend of mine has come to the rescue however - she has hurt herself falling off a horse and will not be doing gardening for a while, so she is lending me her veg garden for the summer. I wonder if I can fill hers up too...
                        I've just updated my plant list on my blog, and I'm about on a par with you I think. Currently planned there's 59 varieties of plants (though 6 of those varieties are ornamental), but that's not including strawberries. Not fully decided what I'm doing as regards varieties with those yet. What size growing space are you working with?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dorothy rouse View Post
                          Well it looks whitish to me, above the white wall, no, not the blue one.
                          Ahh, gotcha! Left hand side ... unfortunately that's rather pathetic too I just use that for some of the solar lighting. Here's another pic from last year which shows some of the lights I had



                          In theory I could make some big gallows brackets to fix to that wall, but there's a lot of big stuff growing along there that's not clear from the pic. From the top down (in the pic with current layout) on that side up against the wall is:

                          Lovage (orange pot)
                          Cherry tree (large black pot)
                          Ramsons (trough)
                          Blue Sausage Fruit (round pot)
                          Ramsons (trough)
                          Blackcurrant
                          Ramsons (trough)
                          .... and then we're into shade

                          I'm expecting the Cherry, Blue Sausage, and Blackcurrant to be almost touching (growing together over the ramsons), so I don't think baskets would work that way either unfortunately ...

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                          • #14
                            Just shows what can be done in a limited space, I congratulate you.
                            photo album of my garden in my profile http://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gra...my+garden.html

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                            • #15
                              Thanks Bill

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