Sweet Aperitif Tomato.

[Ms-T]

Are they a F1 tomato..my seed packet says no ,but when I looked online some are ,now I'm anyone know? ta

[jackarmy]

Mine also says no( at least it doesnt state that they are )
But indeed it appears that they are

[sparrow100]

It's not clear as far as I know - it's described on some websites as open-pollinated (DT Brown) and its launch review also had it as open-pollinated: Plant of the week: Tomato 'Sweet Aperitif' | Life and style | The Guardian

I've had it sent to me as an open-pollinated variety. Am growing it for the first time this year.

[Thelma Sanders]

They are open pollinated.
Read the info about the breeders here
https://awhaley.com/seeds/vegetables...sweet-aperitif

The seed sellers don't want us to save seeds, it is against their interests to list them as OP.

[jackarmy]

On the sellers websites though they actually advertise them as F1, If this isnt so then surely thats false advertising , or are there two varieties?.
Like i said, mine are from t and m and have no mention of them being f1 ( 99p trial offer) yet their website states fi, confused.comami

[Ms-T]

So (open-pollinated) means you can save the seed ,and it will be true next year.?
Sorry I'm still learning.

[Penellype]

Open pollinated means that if it pollinates itself it will breed true, so if you are a plant breeder you would have a greenhouse full of this one variety and let it get on with it. With F1 you have to carefully cross plant A with plant B, which is why they are more expensive.

BUT if you are growing several varieties next to each other there is a high chance that some of the flowers will be pollinated by a different variety and these seeds will not breed true. It would depend on whether you were letting the plants pollinate themselves in a greenhouse (some varieties do this better than others) or whether you had them outdoors and available for insects to go from plant to plant.

[Thelma Sanders]

yes, you can save the seeds for next year

[MarkPelican]

The difference between Open Pollinated and Heritage (Heirloom for our American friends) is the length of time it has been grown. An Heritage can be traced back at least 50 years, and Open Pollinated less than that.

As regards saving seed and it running true, the answer varies. In general Open Pollinated and Heritage varieties will run true as they usually do not cross pollinate. However, they might, particularly if they're grown close to another variety. Ones that are most likely to cross are ones where the stamen sticks out from the end of the flower (mainly potato leafed varieties).

Some people deliberately grown varieties close together to try and create few varieties (look at the story for Radiator Charlie's Mortgage Lifter) and I've had it happen accidentally when a Yellow Cherry (Oleron Yellow) grew near to Red Cherry and I ended up with a mix of Red and Yellow tomatoes the following year. (I've been growing the yellow ones every year since then and I've ended up with two different varieties, neither of which are the same as the original Oleron Yellow.

[MarkPelican]

Who are they from? I found last year that T&M had made a mistake on their website claiming a variety was F1 hybrid whereas the packet didn't say this. When I checked with them, they corrected the website.

[Ms-T]

I got them from Premier seeds from eeeebay.

And thank you all for your help.

[sparrow100]

Very quick response from T&M:

We will amend it right away. The plant listing we have on our site was correct but the seed one was not :/

[veggiechicken]

There was something similar last year with a tomato - can't remember which one - some sellers said it was F1 and others didn't.

[veggiechicken]

Very quick response from T&M:

We will amend it right away. The plant listing we have on our site was correct but the seed one was not :/

I'll be watching for the change - Tomato 'Sweet Aperitif' F1 Hybrid - Tomato Seeds - Thompson & Morgan

[arch01]

As Arthur from Cabin Pressure says, 'That's brilliant!' I have little space in my life for F1s but was swayed to try this one this year on account of free seed and the description. Even more keen on seeing how it does now. Brilliant!