Collards

[Artisan]

Can anyone tell me if the vegetable Collard is the same as Winter Greens?

[veggiechicken]

Collards don't form heads like "normal" cabbage. That's about all I know!
Collards - Moreveg

[Artisan]

Thanks for the info. That is what I want. I just want to be able to pick the leaves. Do you kow if Winter Greens form heads?

[veggiechicken]

I don't know what winter greens are - spring greens I've heard of or there's https://www.kingsseeds.com/Products/...)-Winter-Green

[bario1]

In my experience, some varieties do and some don't!

(I'm talking about Spring greens)

[Artisan]

Okay. The only reason I asked was I have seen Winter Greens plug plants for sale on eBay. I asked the seller the same question but they did not know either. All they said was the Greens for sale where of a commercial growers' variety.

[Zelenina]

I just checked them on the bay and there is too little information. The picture could be of almost any kind of cabbagey greens at the young stage. If he can tell you the name (or commercial code name) for the variety we could Goggle it and maybe find out more.

I don't know of any specific type of plant called winter greens. To me it would just be a general term for greens that can be grown overwinter and eaten in winter or early spring. The main ones in the UK would be kale, sprouting broccoli, brussels sprouts and spring cabbage.

Collards are something between a flat-leaved kale and a cabbage and seem to be more of an American thing, particularly in the south. Though I've seen them appearing more in UK seed catalogues recently.

[burnie]

I thought you put wintergreen on aching muscles after a days digging................?

[Artisan]

Thank you for the information. I will send the seller a message and ask him the variety name. May not have the answer today as he is a bit on the slow side in replying to questions.

[bario1]

I started off some Spring greens seeds just the other day to overwinter in the polytunnel - it's a bit late, but they might just make it.

[Artisan]

Collards

Ha Ha Ha

[Zelenina]

After some more research I discovered a variety of spring cabbage called Wintergreen or Winter Green (I've seen it both ways). It can be eaten as leaves early in the spring, or left a bit longer to form loose heads. And it is available as plug plants. Maybe that's what they are. Although the pictures on the bay look like two different varieties, one more purplish in colour than the other. I'd be dubious about buying them without more info, although the seller does have good feedback. Ask him where he got them from.

[veggiechicken]

I checked on ebay too - and fell off my perch! £5.99 for 10 plug plants
Bario will sell you some for less than that (if they grow)
The seller has various brassicas for sale and most of them use the same photo (though the winter green one is slightly different).
I wouldn't shop there!

[bario1]

I'll update this thread with my success or failure if i remember!

[veggiechicken]

I'm going to have to start some too - even though I said I wouldn't grow cabbages this year

EDIT - I have some Wintergreen cabbage seeds - aka Offenham 3. Sow July - August - so only a couple of weeks late. Durham Early is also sown then - so I'll try both.

https://www.foodforests.eu/products/...reen-untreated