I'm not swearing honestly but has anyone grown...................

[Lumpy]

Schisandra Chinensa - 5 Flavour Berry Plant (Magnolia Vine) Wu Wei Zi

or

Turks Sage

before?

I've found out that the Wu Wei Zi has both male and female flowers so is (hopefully and maybe with a bit of help) self fertile..............but do birds eat the berries? Can you overdose on the berries (used in medicines)? Does it have any demands to keep it healthy?

OK Turk's Sage - does it taste like common sage? Do the flowers attract bees etc?

[Guest]

Just to clarify - Turk's sage is this Turkish Sage/Jerusalem Sage/ Phlomis whatever it is? If yes don't you dare try and eat it. It is ornamental only. It is part of the verbascum/mullein family, I don't know how well they attract bees. There are also a lot of ornamental salvias/sage and many are loved by bees.

[Lumpy]

Ta NG...................

Sorry Mods I put this post on the wrong thread. x

[Jungle Jane]

We Wei Zi has some warnings about use,I’d check with a doctor to be safe? It says-
“Schisandra fruit is POSSIBLY SAFE when taken by mouth appropriately. It can cause heartburn, upset stomach, decreased appetite, stomach pain, skin rash, and itching.”

Special Precautions & Warnings:
Pregnancy and breast-feeding: Schisandra is POSSIBLY UNSAFE when taken by mouth during pregnancy. There is some evidence that it might cause the uterus to contract, and this might lead to miscarriage. Do not use schisandra during pregnancy. There is not enough reliable information about the safety of taking schisandra during breast-feeding. Stay on the safe side and avoid use.
Epilepsy: At least one expert warns against using schisandra if you have epilepsy. The reason for this warning is not clear, but it may be due to a concern that schisandra could possibly stimulate the central nervous system.
Gastroesophageal reflex disease (GERD) or peptic ulcers: Schisandra might make these conditions worse by increasing stomach acid.
High brain (intracranial) pressure: There is a concern that schisandra might make this condition worse because it could possibly stimulate the central nervous system.
Dosage-
The following doses have been studied in scientific research:
BY MOUTH:
For hepatitis: Schisandra extract standardized to 20 mg lignan content (equivalent to 1.5 grams crude schisandra) given daily.
For improving mental and physical performance: 500 mg to 2 grams of schisandra extract daily or 1.5-6 grams of crude schisandra daily. 5-15 grams daily of a boiled tea made from crude schisandra has also been used. People have also taken 100 mg of schisandra extract twice daily. Appropriate dosing may vary depending on extract type and the lignan content.
https://www.webmd.com/vitamins-suppl...ame=schisandra

Dosage on another site says -
The dosage of wu wei zi generally falls between 3 and 15 grams. Note that when using wu wei zi with ganjiang and xi xin, the dosage should be somewhat even. In the United States, I tend to average 6 to 9 grams; while in Taiwan my average was between 9 and 12 grams. If you are inexperienced with these herbs, it is best to initially dose at 3 to 6 grams and slowly increase until you find a comfortable and effective range. This is especially true for xi xin, whose dose and safety is currently a controversial topic. As always, the effective and safe dose will vary dependant on the individual patient’s particular and systemic condition, your local climate and season, and other environmental factors.
https://www.jadeinstitute.com/jade/wu-wei-zi-herb.php

After reading everything,I’d check with a doctor,ask them if any symptoms you might have or any medication you might be on could have complications with this berry? If all is ok I would only use about one berry to start with & monitor for side effects because I’m over cautious & 1 gram isn’t much? It sounds like a good toxin cleanser described as a superfood & good for memory too,we should all probably be growing this,there might be doctors big pharmaceuticals that don’t like natural medicines,they like science & chemicals & make money from giving us tablets & upping the dosage of tablets. I always remember my Nan was on nine tablets,she had a fall went to hospital,came away only needing two tablets. Why was she on nine then!?

[Lumpy]

Ta for the above.

It seems like my urge for something differant could be quite deadly. Back to the drawing board.

[chris_m]

Ta for the above.

It seems like my urge for something differant could be quite deadly. Back to the drawing board.

Just in case your penchant for danger doesn't wane, I strongly recommend that you don't try doing your own fugu, either.

[lottie dolly]

Never heard of them before,BUT,going on just whats already been said,i would leave well alone,what if 1 of the dogs or grandchild eat any when none is looking.

[muck lover]

There’s a lot to be said for a nice cheese sandwich.