Are these chard leaves diseased? Or lil miner guys at work?

[baps]

Hey folks,

Pretty much every leaf on our chard plants have these brown areas (see attached). Have been looking to see what it could be, and there seems to be a few different types of diseases or at least they look different. Like the below;

https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/edi...rd-disease.htm

This however looks much more like it.

https://www.seattletimes.com/life/0725-ciscoe-morris/

But I thought I'd ask before doing anything about it, because if it is leaf miners, we've pretty much lost all our chard!

Would appreciate your thoughts,

Baps.

Edit: image is maybe a little small, have uploaded here; https://imgur.com/a/5U60bXc

[Greenleaves]

Leaf miner for sure

[baps]

Little buggers. So I basically need to pull all my chard? :/

Baps.

[veggiechicken]

Just pick off the damaged leaves and bin them. Its practically impossible to kill chard (here anyway!).

[baps]

Having no leaves on em not kill em?

Baps.

[veggiechicken]

As long as the central growing point is intact it'll keep growing. Mine gets pecked to nothing by the chooks but still comes back!

[baps]

Ok well might as well try that, nothing to take their place yet. Thanks guys!

I think I'd like to get a few chikuns. Just not sure I have the space for them. Next year, next year...

Baps.

[veggiechicken]

Try it and see - maybe start a few more seeds in a tray just in case.


Chooks are great - but I am biased.

[Penellype]

I get a lot of beet leaf miner here (chard is closely related to beetroot). You may find you need to net your chard with fine insect mesh to keep them off - and don't plant it in the same place as they pupate in the soil.

[Bren In Pots]

My Chards also got leaf miner damage I've been taking of the leaves as soon as I spot it and for some reason it doesn't effect the red leaves as much.

[baps]

Yeah that's interesting. I have beetroot growing maybe 10ft away and their leaves are fine. These are all new beds, new compost this year, so nothing has grown in them before really. I was actually going to try some beetroot in this bed very shortly. Maybe I should rethink that?

Baps.

[Earthgirl Jen]

If they're leaf miner then I must be growing 'giant' buggers this year, they are eating the heck out of my beetroot leaves and today they have moved to the celeriac leaves next to them!

They look more like a baby caterpillars as to the small innocuous things I am used to...

I'm squishing them with finger and thumb and they are oozing from the leaves...

[baps]

Pulled all the leaves today. I couldn't see any kind of creature, eggs or giant buggers! Must be sneaky creatures.

On a (somewhat) related note, does anyone know what this might be? Only one tomato plant showing these small holes.

https://imgur.com/a/LOZTdsl

Seeing so many creatures that create small holes on leaves I'm a bit lost. It is minor damage restricted to one plant. Just curious in case I should do something about it (like I should have done with the chard!)

Baps.

[Earthgirl Jen]

[QUOTE=baps;1604436]Pulled all the leaves today. I couldn't see any kind of creature, eggs or giant buggers! Must be sneaky creatures.

baps found some more today this is what you're up against,
Ok I may have exaggerated their size


This is what the leaf looked like on my celeriac


This is how big the ' little blighters' are


If you rub the top layer off your leaf you will see them


Sorry for adding the misleading disinfo regarding size, but they sure move fast on a leaf and there is usually more than one !

[Penellype]

There are caterpillars that can feed on tomato leaves - I sometimes find green ones in my friend's greenhouse. Have a good look as something (probably a moth) may have laid a batch or 2 of eggs on one of the plants.

This one is a possibility:
Bright-line Brown