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    The Evening Martin visited my Girls! 20th April 2009

    or

    So you think you are a beekeeper then?


    Setting the scene….

    I have a beautiful brand new hive that spent last summer residing in my dining room waiting for a swarm from our local pest controller, but as it was such a poor summer there were no swarms to be had. There it sat until we needed the space for our Christmas tree!
    The tree came and went, the snows came and went, and so too the snow drops, spring arrived, and the hive, once again took its place in the dining room…. waiting………

    My bees….

    I think my colony is strong. Queen ‘Atilla the Hum’ has done well and the girls are prolific in numbers. Many are flying and there is a very strong buzzing from within the hive, in fact, worryingly it sounds like a riot going on in there! I have never heard this sound from a hive before- a soft buzzing yes, but not like this- it’s a little Scary.

    Time to make a plan…..

    The plan was to divide the hive in two, thus creating an ‘artificial swarm’. To be prudent I spent some time reading up on the ‘preferred’ methods (maybe in hind sight I should have got the girls [bees] to read this too) I am now totally confused so it’s time to call my beekeeping mentor, Martin, a truly delightful gentleman of mature years and my tutor at evening classes for all ‘up and coming’ bee keepers, and all things bee related.
    Martin was happy to visit one evening and would arrive about six pm. We would either talk bees and hopefully I would be given a plan of action, or better still, if the weather was kind, we would open up the hive and do my first check of the season, after such a cold, cold winter who knows what we would or would not find.
    We would look for signs of disease, the amount eggs and brood, how much space and stores they have left and with bucket loads of luck we might even find my queen ‘Atilla’ still wearing her red crown from last year. Each year has a different colour. You mark your new queens with a bee friendly paint on their thorax- the colour of the paint denotes the year in which they hatched. This year it is to be a green blob. This is a UK wide system for queen marking.

    It was always going to be a bit of a rush….

    But I got home on time, the roads were kind to me, and the weather was perfect with a beautiful warm soft evening in prospect. Martin found my house and we decided to open the hive.
    Bits and pieces gathered, some how I even remembered to bring the matches to light the smoker, which has a complete mind of its own and is normally very ill tempered, tonight however my smoker was the perfect gentleman and lit first time- amazing.

    Of we go…..

    Oh dear, this is really not good, the whole front of the hive was black with bees, all those who should have been on the inside were now on the outside
    Goodness knows I was so glad to have Martin with me. “Just give me a moment to think about this” he calmly and gently said….”yes, I have an idea”
    “I think they were about to swarm so we will create the second hive now”!

    Almost an hour and a half later I have my artificial swarm! I now have two hives, but when I say the word now I really do mean right now, right now as in, at this precise moment in time! come tomorrow they could all do a bunk!

    We finally got done at almost eight in the evening, I lost count of how many times I apologised to Martin, he said he had enjoyed his evening very much and that it had be very exciting I guess the term ‘exciting’ can be felt in very different ways and I bet mine was not in quite the same way as the ever calm, kind and experienced Martin!

    So what have I……?

    Best case scenario- two hives full of bees - please!
    First hive has old Queen (red dot) and the ‘swarm’ that was on front of hive, with just a few frames of stores- no brood and no queen cells (in which the new queen pupates)
    Second hive has stores, brood and one new Queen cell ready to hatch (green dot) plus the nurse bees.
    Other very bad options
    First hive re-swarms so, NO queen, and just a few very, very, lost- returning from the fields - worker bees left in a big empty hive. Very very bad.
    Second hive – queen does not hatch, is not viable, does not mate, does not lay eggs or dies! Colony is therefore considered ‘Queen- less’ this is bad
    Second hive – could swarm too? Also bad

    The next morning……(today)

    Suited and booted early before going to work I took a walk over to the girls, the first hive looks much the same, slightly less busy and no ‘riot sounds’ from within. Good!
    The second hive has a big clump of bees hanging from the front of it….hmmmm, not so good but I hope it’s just the flying bees wondering what the heck is going on and exactly where is home?


    Any one know where I can take knitting classes??? ;-)



    Oh, and the ‘riot sounds’ from within…. We think was down to the fact that they were so tightly packed in the hive more like sardines than bees. They had run out of room. So the noise translates into- get your foot of my head, mind where you put that…ouch! can you just move over a little, careful with that and your foot is in my ear!….. etc.
    and,
    Another little thing - bees don’t normally swarm as early as April, but then- me and mine are not really very normal are we???? ;-)

  • #2
    Wow, that was seriously good timing on your mentors visit! Did they look like they had much food or have you been supplimenting them?

    Hope everything works out in the best way possible HF.

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    • #3
      Had to laugh at your comment about knitting classes, keeping bees looks more fraught & stressful than relaxing & peaceful!
      Hope both hives work out & they don't swarm again.
      Bet you were pleased to hear about the Ł10 million pound grant being put forward for research into the honey bee decline. Maybe we'll get some answers now?
      Into every life a little rain must fall.

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      • #4
        Hi Pumpkin Becki - yes I have been feeding them over the winter. The rape is coming into flower now so should not need my help. Saying that...there is much less rape around this year? They seemed to have a goodly amount of stores when we opened the hive.

        SueA - very pleased about the grant - just hope they use it wisely.

        Went over last night expecting NO bees! and it 'looked' good with bees coming and going from both hives. Lets hope they both have happy Queens in the boxes!!

        Does seem very odd (nice though) seeing two hives with bees flying from both!
        Which do I gaze at first- thing is, will I 'waste' double the time just watching them come and go! just love it!

        Did anyone see the news about bee hive thefts!!!!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Headfry View Post

          Any one know where I can take knitting classes??? ;-)
          Sorry about this....BUT......

          have you thought of knitting them something 'cosy' to make them want to stay in their new hive?????

          http://www.superjam.co.uk/uploaded_i...bee-747188.jpg

          ..(it's OK...I've got me coat ready!!!)
          "Nicos, Queen of Gooooogle" and... GYO's own Miss Marple

          Location....Normandy France

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          • #6
            Actually...fingers crossed for you- I know how much effort you've put into them over the winter! xx
            "Nicos, Queen of Gooooogle" and... GYO's own Miss Marple

            Location....Normandy France

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            • #7
              Well done hf,was lovely reading your post,very exciting.hope all goes well.How long will it be before you know if the new queen has hatched?Look forward to reading your next post

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              • #8
                ooohhh..you making me nervous!
                You can stand about a yard from ours and hear the buzz. We did an inspection already and the hive was packed so this coming weekend we are planning to move some frames to establish a second colony. (creating nucleus in effect) Here's hoping they don't swarm beforehand! eek I'll have to pop up the road and check tonight now....I'll report back
                "You can lead a horticulture but you can't make her think" - Dorothy Parker

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                • #9
                  Nicos - if only I could knit to keep them in there!
                  Jilly Jackson - I now have to leave hive two in peace for about two weeks, ( I am pacing up and down) The queen should hatch and mate in that time. She will mate many times with many Drones (male bees) once she returns to the hive she will not leave again - unless the hive swarms!
                  Plot17b - Bet you find them packed in there! It's this odd for April weather! days are really hot but nights are still cold.... please do let me know how it goes- and Good Luck, I hope all is well with your girls.

                  Up date.....
                  Opened hive one last night....the one we put the swarm into - they are still there! even found queen Attila the Hum wearing her red crown (mark from last year) They are starting to draw out the new frames really well. They have been such a joy to work with these past few days...so calm and placid- if all fails then I will have lovely memories of being surrounded by thousands of lovely little bees- like a soft soft mist of gentle humming. Just love them to bits.

                  oh, and hive two - I sneaky like, lifted the roof (they have 'glass quilt' - inner glass roof) so I can see them without disturbing them. They look good - so many? was not expecting that!

                  FINGERS ARE ALL CROSSED!
                  Last edited by Headfry; 23-04-2009, 09:03 AM.

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                  • #10
                    What a lovely post Headfry. You have a wonderful writing style and as I read it, I was there with you (and a little scared that someone would sting me)

                    Well done on getting the swarm "housed" and my fingers are firmly crossed.
                    A garden is a lovesome thing, God wot! (Thomas Edward Brown)

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                    • #11
                      Well it's been a little over a week and it seems nicely strange to see two hives where there was once just the one I have an Apiary!
                      So far they are still in their respective hives- this is good. I have not been able to go through them yet- weather is being difficult with cold winds blowing.
                      I did, last night, put a feed on the original hive (contains the 'swarm' and Queen Attila) so that should give them a much more easy time. We seem to be having April showers here- very cold squalls with hail, it's nasty and the wind will not let up!
                      I still have about two and a half weeks to wait until I can open the new hive and see if I have been a very lucky bee keeper!

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                      • #12
                        So, go on then Headfry, was the second colony viable? Did the new queen get mated ok? Inquiring minds needs to know!
                        Blessings
                        Suzanne (aka Mrs Dobby)

                        'Garden naked - get some colour in your cheeks'!

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                        • #13
                          I recently did a succesful artificial swarm, BUT then a couple of days ago I went to clip the queen and accidentally let go of the queen she then entered the wrong hive and the bees in that hive killed her. I guess I need a bit more practice clipping drones lol, well at least its not a colony killer as it was a laying queen.
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                          Cheers Chris

                          Beware Greeks bearing gifts, or have you already got a wooden horse?... hehe.

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