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  • #31
    Originally posted by Darwin. View Post
    €400

    wtf?

    Are you Ronaldo? Why didn't you buy a younger sapling?

    Young trees are generally much more successful, they establish quicker and better, as well as being cheaper.
    All gardeners know better than other gardeners." -- Chinese Proverb.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Darwin. View Post
      it's only 10 or 11 meters from the wall into my neighbours garden
      You did ask him? Because it might be shading out his own garden in a few years time.

      An old so-and-so I know planted two oaks, about 20ft apart, in tiny beds, 6ft from the perimeter chainlink fence. There was little, if any, thought given to future growth. Also a gigantic chestnut, 1ft from a neighbour's brick wall. That one is now taller than her house, and she gets no light at all in her garden, poor woman.
      Last edited by Two_Sheds; 04-03-2013, 08:58 AM.
      All gardeners know better than other gardeners." -- Chinese Proverb.

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      • #33
        I wanted a tree that was already fairly big so it'll be providing shade fairly quickly. Our lawn furniture and the child's swing set will be going beside it. I have a budget for the garden this year so I'll take it out of that.

        I told the neighbour I was getting it, he knows what size they are. It'll only shade his garden in the late evenings and never his house or mine, it's too far from both.

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        • #34
          This is the big oak that sits on the edge of the field next door. It is always full of wildlife.


          Last week in the snow.


          It is stunning - but is very close to the houses below. Our neighbours whose houses would be damaged if it fell both want to take it down, which would be a shame for such a magnificent tree. But I understand their fears.

          In the summer it shades our terrace and deck (under the pergola to the left) and most of my veg plot in the afternoon.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by PyreneesPlot View Post
            This is the big oak that sits on the edge of the field next door. It is always full of wildlife.


            [ATTACH=CONFIG]34071[/ATTACH] Last week in the snow.


            It is stunning - but is very close to the houses below. Our neighbours whose houses would be damaged if it fell both want to take it down, which would be a shame for such a magnificent tree. But I understand their fears.

            In the summer it shades our terrace and deck (under the pergola to the left) and most of my veg plot in the afternoon.
            I agree with PP and TS. We have an oak, two limes and three pines with a struggling yew in the middle. All within tipping distance of the houses. Thought needs to be given, because as much as I love leafmold, I rake leaves for six months of the year. Nothing else grows up there. You can never mow flat lawn once you have the roots nobbly everywhere. Oaks are beautiful, but I fear you have given him a problem he may not thank you for unless you discussed it.
            Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better...Albert Einstein

            Blog - @Twotheridge: For The Record - Sowing and Growing with a Virgin Veg Grower: Spring Has Now Sprung...Boing! http://vvgsowingandgrowing2012.blogs....html?spref=tw

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            • #36
              It's probably 40m from my house and further from his, it'll never get that height will it? I thought 28m was as big as it'll get? It'll be 30 years before it reaches over 20m wide and comes to the fence between us. I'd imagine I can keep it at that size. He's building a shed down there anyway.

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              • #37
                The one adjacent to us is taller than the house think these are old estate trees from the hall's parkland days, so probably 80-90 years old (not sure). Don't put your pond near to it. You'll be forever cleaning it out
                Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better...Albert Einstein

                Blog - @Twotheridge: For The Record - Sowing and Growing with a Virgin Veg Grower: Spring Has Now Sprung...Boing! http://vvgsowingandgrowing2012.blogs....html?spref=tw

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                • #38
                  I love trees but agree that big specimens are best grown outside the garden and away from buildings. I have several large old trees in my garden, 2 of which are conkers ( one in the pic below)They bring plenty of wildlife, squirrels, bats and nesting birds - i love the little owl chicks that we see every spring but they definitely have some downsides. One casts shade completely over my lawn from late afternoon, the leaves take hours to clean up and nothing grows near it. I've tried for years to plant spring bulbs underneath but the earth is solid with roots. It doesn't make for a pretty garden but that said I've never bought firewood yet though the tree surgeon costs a fortune!
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Scarlet View Post
                    I love trees but agree that big specimens are best grown outside the garden and away from buildings. I have several large old trees in my garden, 2 of which are conkers ( one in the pic below)They bring plenty of wildlife, squirrels, bats and nesting birds - i love the little owl chicks that we see every spring but they definitely have some downsides. One casts shade completely over my lawn from late afternoon, the leaves take hours to clean up and nothing grows near it. I've tried for years to plant spring bulbs underneath but the earth is solid with roots. It doesn't make for a pretty garden but that said I've never bought firewood yet though the tree surgeon costs a fortune![ATTACH=CONFIG]34072[/ATTACH]
                    Can you even get a tree surgeon to go up tall trees? We have rang several and they won't touch the limes. All of these trees here should have been pollarded years ago, but we also don't buy in firewood That is an upside.
                    Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better...Albert Einstein

                    Blog - @Twotheridge: For The Record - Sowing and Growing with a Virgin Veg Grower: Spring Has Now Sprung...Boing! http://vvgsowingandgrowing2012.blogs....html?spref=tw

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                    • #40
                      You need tp look around, several didn't want to know - some just like the easy jobs! The one that i use now has been coming for several years, he's like a spider and really loves his trees!

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                      • #41
                        I have 27 trees in the garden but it's the only one that should get really big (the chestnut might grow to a nice size I suppose) so I shouldn't need a tree surgeon for a long time. I suppose I may get used to raking leaves though.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Darwin. View Post
                          I have 27 trees in the garden but it's the only one that should get really big (the chestnut might grow to a nice size I suppose) so I shouldn't need a tree surgeon for a long time. I suppose I may get used to raking leaves though.
                          Build yourself a wire cage!
                          Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better...Albert Einstein

                          Blog - @Twotheridge: For The Record - Sowing and Growing with a Virgin Veg Grower: Spring Has Now Sprung...Boing! http://vvgsowingandgrowing2012.blogs....html?spref=tw

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Scarlet View Post
                            You need tp look around, several didn't want to know - some just like the easy jobs! The one that i use now has been coming for several years, he's like a spider and really loves his trees!
                            Might be where we live. I could do with moving them to climbers territory like Scotland or NW England, maybe Wales.
                            They're around eighty feet tall and to my knowledge have never been pollarded. They really could do with something or someone.
                            Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better...Albert Einstein

                            Blog - @Twotheridge: For The Record - Sowing and Growing with a Virgin Veg Grower: Spring Has Now Sprung...Boing! http://vvgsowingandgrowing2012.blogs....html?spref=tw

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                            • #44
                              A wire cage for what? It might be an obvious answer but I'm a clueless gardner so I don't know what I'd need it for.

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                              • #45
                                Leaves so that they rot down without blowing everywhere. Mr VVG built a cube of timber, hinged a lid and stapled chicken wire sides to it. Now and again he will water it
                                Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better...Albert Einstein

                                Blog - @Twotheridge: For The Record - Sowing and Growing with a Virgin Veg Grower: Spring Has Now Sprung...Boing! http://vvgsowingandgrowing2012.blogs....html?spref=tw

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