Round up

[Aberdeenplotter]

I may sound touchy about glyphosate.............but my allotment neighbour used industrial strength stuff without realising the spray mist can cause damage to areas downwind..........i.e. my allotment. Had to buy new rhubarb this year!

Rhubarb seems to be particularly sensitive to round up. It seems to be one of the few plants that is able to absorb it from the soil and then die.

[donnakebab]

Rhubarb seems to be particularly sensitive to round up. It seems to be one of the few plants that is able to absorb it from the soil and then die.

My allotment was sprayed with roundup the year before I took it on so that would be 2008. I haven't used any chemicals on it myself but my rhubarb has died. It wouldn't be the roundup after all this time would it?

Probably just my gardening abilities.

[Two_Sheds]

Now you mention it, I can't grow rhubarb either ... I've planted at least 3 on my plot and they've all died

[Aberdeenplotter]

Don't know guys, I just know that when I use roundup, I am very very careful to avoid any possibility of overspray especially when using in a customer's garden. A customer's rhubarb died after I sprayed weeds on ground quite close and when I experimented in my plot on a windless day, I achieved the same result.
Not exactly scientific but I got the message.

[zazen999]

Rhubarb seems to be particularly sensitive to round up. It seems to be one of the few plants that is able to absorb it from the soil and then die.

Surely not - if the chemical becomes inert on contact with the soil, how can rhubarb be affected....unless...they lied! XOMG.

[Speed Gardener]

I may have to use glyphosate to try and hold back the bindweed around my currant, gooseberry and blueberry bushes as it really got a hold last year with the warm spring. I know it's supposed to be absorbed into the foliage, but if I'm applying it to the bindweed down on the ground, will it harm my fruit if some of it hits the woody parts of the plants?
My fruit collection is my pride and joy so I'll be well choked if I kill them!

[oldie]

Monsanto are now on record as admitting that they have known for years that it does not become inert on contact with the ground.

[zazen999]

Monsanto are now on record as admitting that they have known for years that it does not become inert on contact with the ground.

We have a dead bed at home - nothing would grow in it. I tried indestructable herbs, flowers, green manures, veg, we put small shrubs in - allsorts. Things that like it hot and dry, or wet, and even mint doesn't thrive.

I noticed at the weekend that someone has sprayed the path on the other side of the fence, to stop the grass from growing [the grass that Mr Z keeps under control, and digs out each summer, that offends nobody]. Just one little line of spray - but it's enough to stop pretty much anything from growing in that bed. But because it's a shared path - we have no control.

[Aberdeenplotter]

Monsanto are now on record as admitting that they have known for years that it does not become inert on contact with the ground.

I'd be interested to see where they have gone on record with that. Have you got a link?

[chris]

We have a dead bed at home - nothing would grow in it. I tried indestructable herbs, flowers, green manures, veg, we put small shrubs in - allsorts. Things that like it hot and dry, or wet, and even mint doesn't thrive.

I noticed at the weekend that someone has sprayed the path on the other side of the fence, to stop the grass from growing [the grass that Mr Z keeps under control, and digs out each summer, that offends nobody]. Just one little line of spray - but it's enough to stop pretty much anything from growing in that bed. But because it's a shared path - we have no control.

:/

This really bugs me, people on my site use it. I was planning on using the high concentrated stuff to inject into the knotweed on my plot this August, but I'm beginning to think otherwise...

[oldie]

I'd be interested to see where they have gone on record with that. Have you got a link?

Directly by word of mouth from a junior official in the Canadian equivalent of our Min.of Agriculture. The American FDA have agreed with M that they will cease to advertise it as biodegradable and environmentally friendly. The French took this action in 2001 as their scientists found it active in the soil 28 days after application. The Danish, in 2003 found it was active 1meter underground and tried to ban it completely but with the strength of the agro-chemical lobby were not able to do so. There was concern about it nearing water courses.

[Snadger]

We have a dead bed at home - nothing would grow in it. I tried indestructable herbs, flowers, green manures, veg, we put small shrubs in - allsorts. Things that like it hot and dry, or wet, and even mint doesn't thrive.

I noticed at the weekend that someone has sprayed the path on the other side of the fence, to stop the grass from growing [the grass that Mr Z keeps under control, and digs out each summer, that offends nobody]. Just one little line of spray - but it's enough to stop pretty much anything from growing in that bed. But because it's a shared path - we have no control.

Not defending roundup Zaz...........but it sounds more like sodium chlorate damage there?

[Aberdeenplotter]

I'll be happy to believe this if I can see it in black and white from its source

[oldie]

If you go to Canada I 'm sure you could get an interview. He's a relative and I think he would resent the inference in your post.
Here is a link to the Danish story, there is plenty of information available on line with regard to the French story and the current Situation in the USA if you are prepared to look.

ORGANIC (Ltd) | NEWS | Denmark Bans Glyphosates, The Active Ingredient In Roundup |

[Aberdeenplotter]

It was you who said Monsanto were now on record but somehow that has changed to a story you got second hand from a relative. Not quite the same thing is it?

As for the situation in Denmark, there isn't the slightest inkling that Monsanto or any of the other firms that market glyphosate based weed killers are accepting they are at fault for anything. I'm not saying they are not at fault,just that they have not gone on record as accepting that they are, as you insinuated in your post.